Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Oxford Street to be pedestrianised by 2020 ... so Wightman Rd ...
... can surely be closed to through traffic in the future, as it currently is during the bridge works. If the planners can deal with the re-routing of all those buses and taxi journeys away from Oxford Street for the pedestrianisation plans, it must be possible to do this for Wightman Road as well.
Living Wightman would do well to have a chat with the new Mayor's office.
Tags for Forum Posts: traffic, wightman bridge closure
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Permalink Reply by JulieB on
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I thought one of the major points of having a Harringay wide traffic survey was to get away from local pressure groups lobbying the council for changes to their individual streets. It is supposed to be looking at the bigger picture and finding solutions that benefit as many of us as possible.
Obviously we don't know what was in the document Living Wightman sent to the council, but I asked the council a while ago and they told me exactly what Antoinette is saying - legally they can't keep the current road blocks once the work on the bridge is finished.
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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There's nothing wrong with lobbying, Julie. Unless it comes with undue influence, it's perfectly respectable.
The aim of the traffic study is to put a whole lot more 'science' into any traffic management decision-making.
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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The Gardens closure was a Labour selection meeting fix, that's why I regard them as the most important meetings around here.
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Permalink Reply by Don on
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Antoinette - Don’t worry about not getting the Maserati; as we know from this discussion, it’s socially irresponsible to use anything other than a pedal cycle (with a trailer for 2.4 children, heavy shopping, recycling material, charity shop deliveries, Ikea furniture, aged parents on a day out, etc, of course) in the “local” streets of Harringay, so you probably wouldn’t be allowed to do anything other than park it outside on bricks and admire it if Santa answered your wish!
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Permalink Reply by matthew cuthbert on
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Even Clarkson would advocate that it is how you drive your Maserati, presumably it has an eco mode on the engine settings, (for urban driving, where only so many cylinders are required,) predominately it is a touring vehicle but Turino is still very urban.
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I would donate too.
I don't see any place for nimbyism to the detriment of other local residents.
Besides, until the road is reopened, we don't know what the traffic will be like. A lot changes in six months, and many less may well be commuting through wightman road.
As a matter of curiosity, what level of traffic would whightman road residents consider acceptable?
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"what level of traffic would whightman road residents consider acceptable?"
I think this is easy to answer, some would be happy to go back to how it was before the gardens were gated, a hard core might want to go back to the level it was before all the other local road closures happened and an even harder core might want to go back to how it was before Hermitage Rd was closed off.
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Permalink Reply by Karen Alexander on
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In my opinion it is not a simple case of what Wightman Road residents would consider acceptable it is wholly about what is not acceptable – 120,000 vehicles is absolutely without a shadow of a doubt not acceptable! Wightman Road is the key to solving the traffic issues on all the other roads. I am sure the traffic survey will bear that out and then the consultants and the council will have to come up with a strategy to solve the issue locally and reduce the level of traffic as a whole. That may mean a system similar to that already in place on Wightman Road together with putting in measures to reduce the stress on other nearby roads. Nobody wants 120,000 vehicles passing their home every week, why should Wightman Road residents? I have said it before, this needs the council to be bold and ambitious and it needs conversations with local residents and most importantly it needs strong local councillors who really want to drive this forward. A viable workable solution benefits all Ladder residents not just Wightman. There has to be a way to make this work so nobody is as terribly disadvantaged as Wightman Road residents were prior to the bridge repair works.
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Permalink Reply by Nick on
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Many people live on Green Lanes, which has more traffic than Wightman. By your logic, should Green Lanes also be closed?
A similar argument could apply to St Anns Road, Endymion Road, Black Boy Lane etc.
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In one of the recent meetings the consultants divided the roads between those that had more or less than 10,000 vehicles a week. I can't remember their exact words but the sense was that 10,000 a week might be considered the maximum number.
The number of vehicles isn't the only criteria however. Type of vehicle, driving style and road construction also contribute significantly to noise. Heavy vehicles disturb more than cars. Rat running traffic tends to be faster and more aggressive, so noisier and more stressful for residents. Narrow roads with two or more stories on either side create more reverberation and echo. Speed bumps cause noise from acceleration and deceleration as well as vibration. Poor road surfaces create more tyre noise and vibration. So on and so forth.
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So long as we vacilitate the vehicle journeys, is the NHS coping with the strain of respiratory complications across Haringey, we will pay for it down the line.
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