Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
New Parking Charges for Haringey
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Permalink Reply by Andy H on
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Blimey!
mine's gone up from £30 to £50! that's one hell of a hike in price.
especially when I can never park anywhere near my house because the bottom of Lothair Road is always full of parked up cabs from Golden Cars, none of which have a residents permit.
....and on weekends i have to park streets away if I move my car during the day, because all the parking spaces are instantly filled by shoppers going to Sainsbury's, Argos, Next, Homebase etc
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Permalink Reply by Anette on
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Have we had a reply from Nilgun yet? If not, why not? The only way this increase can be even remotely justified is if the CPZ times are extended to at least 8pm, preferably 10 pm to stop the white van brigade parking without permits. And not even then is it fully justified. How will we benefit from the extra money we are putting in to the system? Nilgun?
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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I agree with you about the white van brigade Anette BUT, your council tax has been frozen and the amount that our council receives from central government has been slashed... every little helps. If only we could CPZ our way to Finchley and congestion charge the Enfield<->City lot.
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What's wrong with extending the CPZ times? It would mean less scroungers parking where we have paid to park, more people having to pay to park, less intruders, and more money for the council, as more permits has to be bought. Everybody wins.
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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The Council would have to employ more Civil Enforcement Officers to cover the increased hours. Not a bad thing in itself.
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Permalink Reply by Guy Holden on
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I dont agree at all when ever I have family or friends to visit especially on Satuardays I get through loads of the orange visitor permits which is another cost, if anything I would prefer an earlier cut off point. It used to be until 10.30 but was changed thank goodness
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The earlier cut off means more people park here who have not paid, and we who do pay to park can't park! What's fair about that?
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Permalink Reply by StephenBln on
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Put Mainzelmännchen* und green 2CVs together and what do you get..
yes, yet more uniforms and petty dictators on the streets..
scroungers..? intruders..? What's next? Foreigners? watch out A - they'll be after you next..
*http://www.google.de/images?client=safari&rls=en&q=mainzelmännchen&oe=UTF-8&redir_esc=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=R7k4TbjFMYGMswa-hf3zBg&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=2&ved=0CEIQsAQwAQ
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What we need is to stop 2 things:
1. Shoppers & commuters parking for LONG periods of time, like all day.
2. Tradesmen parking commercial vehicles outside of the CPZ hours (which are aimed at shoppers and commuters).
My street is half full on a Saturday or week day when all the tradesmen are out working (or somewhere because they have no CPZ pass) and no shoppers can park. Come back home at 9 o'clock on a Sunday night with sleeping children and a car full of luggage and you may very well have to park in the next street or risk parking in a redundant disabled bay.
Over in crouch end the CPZ is timed SOLELY to stop commuters and people without CPZ passes parking there (I think it's a couple of hours around lunch time). Ours is an early model which needs a rethink.
I love the way our shop keepers think that a disabled pass from Barnet or Enfield makes it OK to park all day in Hewitt Rd (yes I am that blimmin nosey).
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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A blue badge from Barnet or Enfield does make it okay to park in Haringey. The badges are a national and European scheme - not just for Haringey. Details of the scheme are here on the DirectGov website. And on Haringey's website.
John, if you or anyone else has evidence, or at least some strong grounds, for believing that the Blue Badge scheme is being abused by people who are not disabled then please let Ann Cunningham (Head of Parking) know about it. I suggest you copy in Cllr Nilgun Canver as "cabinet" person responsible; and perhaps your three ward councillors.
As well as the interests of the residents, the Council needs to safeguard the interests of genuine Badge Holders. They too lose out if there are freeloaders with fake Blue Badges. Or people who use a blue badge which, say, belongs to a relative who isn't in the car.
Can I also suggest that people who have views on the proposed Parking price hike should sent them in as soon as possible. The Statutory period is 21 days from the day the notices went up. Simply posting your views on HoL won't work from this legal point of view. The email address is: frontline.consultation@haringey.gov.uk
People may want to copy in their ward councillors as well. Plus Nilgun Canver; Claire Kober as Leader, and Joe Goldberg in charge of finance. (All three are firstname.surname@haringey.gov.uk)
Most local residents who've written or spoken to me about the increased charges (not that many have) are clear that they are about getting in extra income as a response to horrendous cuts. And I'm sure that's true across the country. It remains to be seen whether or not there are legal challenges to this - since it means that the increases are simply a tax - no longer about balancing the Parking budget.
I agree with you John, that with parking, some imaginative thinking and experiment could be very helpful in order to balance the needs of residents, visitors, and local businesses. Unfortunately, the law isn't flexible; even if Haringey officers wanted to be.
But. as I've written before, I'd very much like to see something like a Citizen's Jury; or Deliberative Democracy to examine these issues and suggest possible experiments. Of course, lots of politicians - in different political parties - are happy to use these phrases. But how many would give up control?
I'm curious about your mention of "redundant disabled bays". Cllr Lorna Reith and I took this up in Tottenham Hale where some disabled residents had died months before and nothing had been done by our Highways staff. Is this the sort of case you mean?
(Tottenham Hale ward councillor)
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I do think it's wrong that holders of disabled badges are allowed to park on double yellow lines. Double yellows are supposed to be laid where to park would be dangerous or an obstruction - eg on a corner. The fact that the driver is disabled doesn't make his vehicle any less dangerous or less of an obstruction.
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Redundant disabled bays: yes, that's what I mean. Where will it end? We're all still living here old and frail (and therefore entitled to a "disabed" badge) and the only people who can park here are "disabled" badge holders?
My point about the Barnet badge was... it doesn't take a genius to work out that it is actually one of our erstwhile shopkeepers (and probably landlords). Parked there all day, every day...
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