Mess in Finsbury Park

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Permalink Reply by John D on April 21, 2017 at 17:24

If I worked in Saudi Arabia I would not drink alcohol and I wouldn't have sex with a woman I wasn't married to. In Russia I would not wear shorts to church. You have to respect and obey the local cultures.

I also don't think it's in any way acceptable to get drunk, throw up in the gutter and have a one-night stand.

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Permalink Reply by Penguin on April 25, 2017 at 11:05

Obviously you wouldn't do those things in those countries because you would be killed or maimed for life. 

We live in a society where people are largely left to make their own decision what is right and wrong. You will not change someone who for their whole lives has thought it is 'not that bad' to drop litter or urinate outdoors.

You're being very British about this. That Britain does not exist anymore especially in London. It is a city of many cultures and nationalities that have to tolerate each others little quirks!

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Permalink Reply by KP on April 25, 2017 at 11:30

I don't think John is being very 'British' to want to live somewhere where there are acceptable norms. I have travelled all over the world and while I accept that standards vary I don't think it's ok to say people can come and live in this country and behave in the same way they did at home, if that behaviour is deemed unacceptable here. If I went to live in another country I would live by their rules. And if I didn't like their rules I would live somewhere else!! It's ridiculous to say that we have to tolerate littering, spitting, urinating, etc on our streets just because it was ok for them to do it in the places they come from

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Permalink Reply by Penguin on April 25, 2017 at 12:38

But the problem is that they are not aware that it's that bad to do it.

So how are you going to enforce this on them without upsetting alot of people? 

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Permalink Reply by KP on April 25, 2017 at 12:44

I don't care if it upsets them -- they should just be punished! And I think the vast majority of them are aware. It's naive to think they are just a bunch of innocent people who don't understand what's right and wrong!

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Permalink Reply by Iona on April 25, 2017 at 13:07

we need some of these signs.........

richard where exactly is it acceptable to urinate in public? men do it all over the world for sure but it's not acceptable anywhere.....

Permalink Reply by Penguin on April 28, 2017 at 17:29

Is it any wonder that people feel it's okay to urinate or litter in the open? They only have to look around them.

Look at the mess Harringay and Green Lanes is in.

Flytips, takeaway litter, buildings covered in ugly satellite dishes, spitting, old mattresses left everywhere, speeding cars on 20mph roads, open drug dealing, high levels of pollution, pavements black with dirt, graffiti all over the bridge etc etc.

when an area is in that much of a state there will be plenty of people who aren't going to respect it. It's called 'broken window syndrome'.

We have a council without any motivation to improve it. The real killer is, the majority of people on this board would have voted for them. 

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Permalink Reply by Penguin on May 3, 2017 at 12:49

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