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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Jus walking my crazy dog in Finsbury Park and the amount of mess left behind by people is just awful. Just one example - and just next to a bin. Why?

Also, why so many men think it is ok to urinate against a tree/bush in plain view in this park?

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Hi Anka. Welcome to the neighbourhood! Yes sadly the filth, rubbish and men urinating are commonplace. There are quite a few posts about men urinating openly -- not just in the park -- I have seen it along Green Lanes too! Sadly no-one seems to do anything about it. I agree with you though. I would rather see people fined or having to clear up as a form of punishment

What's so annoying is the park makes so much money one would assume they'd spend it on staff. Also I thought Haringey had hired a firm to fine those who drop their litter?
They make about a million a year by hiring it out to concert promoters, funfairs and TV companies. And yes barbecues are not allowed.
Every morning my heart breaks as I cycle through on my way to work. So much litter just left where people were sitting. I wish they would make those caught littering spring a morning tidying up common spaces. Far more effective than fines which I'm sure most don't pay.

it may be worth everyone filling in a complaint about the rubbish on the council website - you can upload photos there too.....

 

This is a cultural thing I'm afraid. Whenever I've witnessed littering and urinating in the street it does appear to be men of a middle eastern appearance. I think we have to be tolerant of other peoples cultures.

No we don't . You would find FGM acceptable ?

We need park police and some proper rules I was thinking when I was doing my walking jog round the park after Easter
And some proper rules
On the spot fines for littering
Ban barbecues
Keep the noise down or on the spot fines
No live music, this includes guitar playing or any other instrument particularly those under the influence, who then decide they are pretty good and make others suffer
Fine dog owners who don't produce a dog poo bag, although tissues will suffice
Dogs to be kept on leads as can be dangerous and frightening for some people
Actually just ban dogs, much easier
Walking, walking jogs, and yes runners allowed and of course cycling
But if found loitering, to be questioned just in case the person maybe seduced into one of the above ant social or frivolous activities
And of course no alcohol, as the empty bottle of tequila amongst the remains of the party I saw, was definitely the side quick in that particular pile of mess

I don't. Some minorities within some cultures do.

Jesus Christ are you serious Richard??? Being tolerant of other people's cultures is one thing but this is just anti-social behaviour. What a ridiculous thing to say!!!

So do I!

If it's more acceptable in some other cultures then we have to understand that. You can't just steam roller them into changing.

In 'western' culture it's accepted that you can get so drunk that you can't walk down the street properley and sometimes throw up in the gutter before having a one-night stand. I don't hear other cultures rushing to condemn this and try and change it.

I'm just of a view that you're never going to change someones behaviour if to them its been fairly acceptable from a young age.

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