Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Meet the new London routemaster
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Permalink Reply by Old-Age-Emporium(OAE) on
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Steve, I think the Wuppertal Volk may be sound sleepers but I think it would be a bit noisy for Wightman Road's first-floor bedrooms.
No, what I had in mind is Shenzhen Huashi's design on Wightman's future. For an earnest video or two from the inventor (with computerised English voiceover) please Google 'Straddling Bus' and help my case by sharing it with doubting HOLlers.
(John, sorry about a further hint of Sunday evening public transporn) Steve, with Shenzhen Huashi Bus it is the bus, not the supports, that does the straddling.
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Permalink Reply by StephenBln on
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OAE, is this what you wanted? :o)
BTW, this isn't a proven system.. which (my) Wuppertaler Schwebebahn is.. :o)
But you Brits always did love gimmicks :o)
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Thanks, Steve. Maybe when the Chinese take over I'll have to learn how to use my Korean computer.
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Permalink Reply by Clive Carter on
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On the whole, looks even better than earlier pics, but also confirms impressions of seating. Is that the intended design? If so, needs to be re-thought. Seats look as if they've come straight out of The Drain (the 1930s Waterloo & City Line). IMHO,.
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Permalink Reply by pamish on
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How many doors? Can't see from this whether there are two or three - is there one more at the front? Whatever they have come up with, how do they stop freeloaders from hopping on through the open doors? Or will there really be conductors asking, any more fares please? Ding, ding.
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Permalink Reply by matt on
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I've not heard that conductors will be coming back. There are after all oyster card readers all over this new bus.
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If there's any problem with freeloaders, it isn't confined to this bus type. The half-mile long bendy buses are a freeloader's dream; the only chance the driver has of seeing a freeloader is by the front door; much less for the second door and the third door? The rear part is a surely a gift to freeloaders.
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Permalink Reply by RuthE on
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I've been very much against bringing back the route master buses but having looked at the footage of the Boris Bus they look really nice and there is room for prams and wheelchairs, a great improvement on the original.
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Unfortunately this 'model' hasn't yet got the batteries or engine in..
and I'd like to know how Matt would like to work an open-platform vehicle without a conductor..
If there are doors on the back -it defeats the whole object of the so-called 'new Routemaster' project..
There are already three-door, two staircase double deckers on the market which are a lot better than the D/Ds currently in service London. These would be a lot cheaper to buy than this Boris-mobile
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Steve this is a handsome bus alright, but it also looks so big that might have trouble negotiating some of London's cramped streets. This bus is suitable for a remodelled Berlin, no doubt.
But how easily would it go round the roundabout at the junction of Tottenham Lane and Ferme Park Road, for example?
The building taken down on the corner by an errant bus has only recently been rebuilt. We surely don't want it to come down again, whether or not the bus is steered by a woman at the controls.
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Yes Clive you're right, buses like this can't work all routes - even here in Bln they are not expected to do that (we have 500 of these now). But they could quite easily work on routes like the 29 & 141.
The problem in my opinion and I've said it often before on HoL, is that London is much too dependent on diesel buses for public transport. There needs to be something in between 'the Tube' (high capacity long distance) and buses (lower capacity shorter local services).. That of course is the tram (middle capacity- middle and longer distance services)...
I'm convinced the Boris Bus won't address or solve any of London's transport problems in the long term - what really needs to be done is for main routes/corridors to be converted back to tram operation- infrastructure that was once in place and destroyed in the 30s, 40s & 50s because imported diesel was cheaper (and two fingers up for the consequences to the environment) than home grown electricity.
Those responsible for transport in those days, took the cheap way out of replacing life-worn trams with buses. And London has suffered with transport problems ever since.
London also has a very low ratio inhabitants:metro(underground) lines in comparison to most other World Cities, with (dirty) buses having to do the brunt of the work.
I certainly could imagine Green Lanes & Seven Sisters Road looking like this again..
It won't happen overnight - but a decision in this direction needs to be taken.
(photos taken yesterday)
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