Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Housing Development- Colina Mews-Old Garages
Please see the link for information,quite happy for the area to be developed but three storeys seems high to me,what do others think ?
http://www.planningservices.haringey.gov.uk/portal/servlets/Applica...
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Permalink Reply by matt on
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Rob, I imagine there might be objections from the people living in the terraced houses on Park Rd because the development will overlook their gardens. However the proposed building is set back from those houses as far as possible within the site, with vehicular access down the north side.
You can see that the land proposed for development is currently a set of rundown garages. The proposal includes 3 parking spaces for the Langham Club so they must be on board.
Btw, just out of interest, the owner has recently had another development proposal declined on appeal. That was for somewhere out near Stevenage. But it looked like a green field development.
Do you live near to this development?
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Permalink Reply by David Schmitz on
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Because I'm a member of the Langham, I won't be eligible to sit on any planning committee session that considers this application, and therefore I can express views on it now.
The site is clearly, I think, one which would benefit from development, not only because the houses are needed but also because the surrounding area has suffered from neglect which development would be likely to reverse.
I do agree, though, that the effect of the proposed height on the houses in Park Road needs consideration. I will ask therefore if the planning officers will give me the benefit of their views. In particular, I will ask if they can equate the proposed height with features on nearby buildings, as that is the only way in which one can get a feel for what is involved.
Once I've found out more, I'll report back.
David Schmitz
Liberal Democrat Councillor for Harringay Ward
P.S. Like many other Councillors, I've long been concerned about the state of rubbish dumping and other anti social behaviour in the part of Colina Mews which lies between Park Road and Harringay Gardens. The problem arises in part from the fact that the roadway has never been made a Council road - "adopted as a highway" to use the jargon. On a recent tour of the Ward with the Council's new Chief Exeuctive, I suggested that adoption be considered, and I believe this is now being looked at.
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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A wee plug for "fascinating facts" from local history - the building on Colina Mews opposite this site has two minor claims to fame:
1. It housed an organ manufacturer that made the cinema organ for the now defunct Coliseum Cinema which once stood opposite The Salisbury. (Links here)
2. It was home to the very first Majestic Wine outlet.
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Permalink Reply by James on
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Hi Hugh - we took a pilgrimage (of sorts...) to Glastonbury as they have one of 'our' organs in St John's church down there. Nice to see what they were up to all those years ago in Colina House!
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Permalink Reply by Richard Hadingham on
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Is the 4 manual Rest Cartwright organ still there, James? I was under the impression that it had been replaced with an electronic instrument many years ago. The (late) international virtuoso concert organist Carlo Curley was supposed to have given a recital at St. John's, Glastonbury, but I don't know whether or not it actually took place. St John's was the largest organ ever built by the firm. I have a model of the organ console made by Rest Cartwright himself in 1930 and a copy of the original brochure with specification. Perhaps you ought to also open an organ Museum in Colina House!
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As far as I could work out, it's behind a screen that features pipes from an older organ. I think it is actually there but not being that knowledgeable about these things I could have been looking at anything!
Organ museum - that would be cool! We thought we should give a home to The Coliseum's dismantled organ until we worked out what size it must be! :)
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Permalink Reply by Rob & Debbie on
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Thanks for comments I agree about Park Road being overlooked but I live in Harringay Road and the development is almost as close to the back of our house as the North side of the development and with the orientation of the properties in Harringay Road and in Green lanes I am concerned about the possible loss of natural light to the properties.We will of course be making our comments on the feedback form but I am sure it will affect us the light to the back of the property is already of concern to us.
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As an owner of one of the flats in Colina House which sits directly opposite the development - my living room window looks directly over the old garages and the windows of the proposed flats will almost be in touching distance - we will be objecting to the development.
In principal, we are keen for that area to be developed - Colina Mews has many charms but the run down garages in that area is not one of them - but we support general change to improve the area.
However, I think the proposed buildings will massively overwhelm the small space they are trying to fit them into and will have a huge impact on privacy, sun light and traffic and parking on the road - amongst other things.
In addition, the application asks for two stories in the title and then 3 in the detail and describes its location as Green Lanes, which it isn't - anyone casual observer or potential interested party could be mislead by this and not pay the level of attention it deserves.
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Has everyone interested in this development seen that the original proposal has been removed and replaced with a new proposal. I took a close look at both and they looked exactly the same - this was confirmed by the councils planning department by email.
I also asked if this mean the original concerns to the proposals that people had posted online would be taken into account for the new submission and they said 'no - you'd need to start from scratch".
I'm not usually one for conspiracy theories that does smell a bit fishy.
Anyway, if you're reading this and you put forward your thoughts before, best do it again...
Old submission:
http://www.planningservices.haringey.gov.uk/portal/servlets/Applica...
New submission:
http://www.planningservices.haringey.gov.uk/portal/servlets/Applica...
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Permalink Reply by hob on
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I think the only thing fishy might be a red herring. This is the usual route taken in trying to get a domestic dwelling development accepted. There is nothing unusual or sordid about it. The planning official had a look and mentioned about the restriction of light into the back of the houses on Park Road. If you take a look at, and compare the drawings you will notice that the overall height building has been reduced and the northern end roof has been reconfigured to avoid blocking the sun. The whole scheme has also been moved slightly southward. This is highlighted in a new drawing on the new application that refers to sunlight.
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