Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
HMO advice
the one bedroom flat above me has been rented to 4 people, two in the bedroom, 2 in the living room and several times a week one more in the kitchen. I think this may be illegal under HMO regulations but cannot find the information. Anyone got any ideas?
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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I'd started a HoL Wiki page on this. On that basis you'd have to start by working out whether the folks comprise a household or not. I think it all gets quite complicated as to which legislation is relevant. I'd suggest contacting your councillor and gettig them to help. (My HMO info came from the DCLG website).
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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I lived in a flat like that when I first came to the UK. Acton is full of them.
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Permalink Reply by Takaokagiejin on
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Thanks I'll take a look. And remember not to move to Acton
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Permalink Reply by ElleCarumba on
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do you know who owns it? can you tell if it has been rented to all four people (ie with the landlord's knowledge) or has it legally been rented to one or two tenants who have then got some extras in without the landlord's knowledge?
The school my mother works at (which is indeed in Acton) used to rent out the old caretaker's one bedroom flat for some extra income. They let it to what seemed to be a very nice couple. One day an ambulance turned up to school saying they had been called to a lady giving birth. The teachers broke into the caretakers flat and found the nice couple had moved four extra people into the living room, one of whom was giving birth.
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Blimey! I will never move to Acton. Am in discussions with the landlord who knows exactly what is going on and is promising to resolve things, although moving people out is not one of his suggestions.
I am confused by the law, as an HMO is defined as more than 2 people who are unrelated living together. However the local authority can set the number of occupants required before the landlord has to get a licence and therefore any sort of monitoring.
Looking at Harringay Council's info they only count it as an HMO in need of a licence if there are more than 5 people living there from 2 households, which explains alot.
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Permalink Reply by Karen Alexander on
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I am one of the local councillors for the ward. The council has a HMO Working Group set up to tackle the problem of HMO's in Harringay ward. Let me have the details and I will investigate further. My e-mail address is karen.alexander2@haringey.gov.uk.
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thank you so much Karen, I will email you
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Permalink Reply by Dominic on
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I would suggest contacting the landlord. In general landlords aren't that keen on having loads of people living in small properties as the wear and tear increases dramatically. That means more expenditure on repairs and less profit.
If you're unlucky it'll be a scum landlord who's charging each tenant rent...
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he's coming round tomorrow to look at the cracks that have appeared in my ceiling!
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