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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

A national Accident and Emergency survey published by the Care Quality Commission this week reports that across the country 8 out of 10 respondents rate their overall experience of hospital emergency services as good with only 3 per cent of patients saying the doctor or nurse who treated them did not listen to what they had to say.

Closer to home. however, the picture is less rosy. Our nearest A&E Hospital, the North Middlesex, is rated fourth worst in the country. Respondents rated the hospital worse than average for “waiting time”, “care and treatment”, “hospital environment and facilities”, as well as the “leaving” category. This follows a CQC report last summer which reported that the hospital overall requires improvement.

Amongst other neighbouring A&E units Barnet Hospital, (which has incorporated Chase Farm Hospital A&E), was rated eighth worst in the survey.

The national findings are presented under the questions inspectors ask about A&E departments: are they safe, caring, effective and responsive to people's needs. They reflect solely on the survey findings of the experiences of patients. 

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How long do we have to put up with excuses for or from the NHS?

It has been ring fenced and had a lot of money poured into it yet time and again we hear they need more money.

I ask myself is it ever going to end.

The land occupied by Chase Farm is vast (likewise for St Anne's) and there are little nissan type huts and porta cabins dotted higgledy piggeldy over their huge land space. The time wasted,  cost and logistics of running places like these must be a nightmare.

Why not pull them down and sell off part of the land for much needed housing and build new efficient high rise hospitals.

After all there is a need for a good modern hospital near the M25 and Chase Farm would be ideally situated.

John Leach

thats why I have always gone to the Whittington

Yes, the Whittington is actually nearer for a lot of people in Harringay than the North Mid. I've never been to the latter but have visited the Whittington A&E on more than a few occasions. 

Me too. North Mid has always been crap.

My 74 yr old mother in law fell in the backyard and could not move. It took the ambulance two and a half hours to get to her so she was lying on the cold stones as they told us not to move her. She was then taken to North Mid where she was again not attended to for a further three hours and she needed to pee. So for five and a half hours the woman was in need of the loo. When my hubby got there and walked up to the nurse's station to ask for assistance he was faced with about six faces that were like deer in headlights and as if he was speaking in Klingon. He finally got a response from a guide person walking by who then asked a fellow nurse to help and she just walked off. When my mother in law was finally seen to the nurse was rude and nasty. Eventually in the A&E fashion a doctor came to have a look and suggested x-rays which he said he would order. He came back two hrs later asking how the x-rays had gone to find out my mother in law had still not been. So he himself went out and got her seen to straight away. So taken in by ambulance from 2ish in the afternoon to returning home at midnight and being treated as a burden to the North Mid Hospital. My hubby said as bad as it was for my mother in law he felt worse for an elderly lady in the next bed whose family were also completely forgotten and she had wet the bed. Disgusting and apalling!!!! I always ask for the Whittington. Much better service.

John, Chase Farm is needed for people living close to Chase Farm.  Hospitals in Haringey are needed for people living in Haringey.  Try to think wider than your own needs - about how public service provision affects people with disabilities or chronic health complaints or people with children who don't have cars for example.  Just because you are presently lucky enough to have good health and transport doesn't mean the service should be designed around your lucky circumstances. 

The current waste in the NHS is because governments seem intent on organising everything around profit-making rather than around meeting people's health needs.  That means that rather than assessing what needs there are in each community and then providing the healthcare we have already paid for through our taxes, a huge amount is spent on consultants giving advice on how to privatise, complex tendering, privatisation processes and the costs of selling off public land.  Bring the focus back to providing health care only and save millions.

Dear Helen,

If you are referring to me I am surprised at your contribution that seems to suggest that we carry on and do nothing and then goes on to have a go at me personally.

I have not suggested losing any hospital(s) only how we might provide new and better facilities.

Thank you for commenting on my health and perhaps you should know that when I do attend hospital I use public transport and I am not in good health.

I hope you are well and remain so.

God bless,

John.

I've (luckily) never had to use the A & E at North Middlesex but I have used it quite a bit as an outpatient and have always been really impressed by the standard of care

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