Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Green Party Candidate Names Released
See them at:
Harringay Ward Candidates
St Ann's Ward Candidates
Seven Sisters Ward Candidates
I'm told that pics and bios are on their way.
So that's full house except for LDs in Seven Sisters + any smaller parties or indepdendents. I know we have at least one independent in Harringay ward. Any others anyone knows of?
Harringay Ward Candidates
St Ann's Ward Candidates
Seven Sisters Ward Candidates
I'm told that pics and bios are on their way.
So that's full house except for LDs in Seven Sisters + any smaller parties or indepdendents. I know we have at least one independent in Harringay ward. Any others anyone knows of?
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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Thank you Alan. Wholeheartedly endorse this (See my comment half way down the 1st page).
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Permalink Reply by Clive Carter on
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Councillor's and politicians hold the reigns of power – well, yes and no.
Our elected representatives are supposed to hold the reigns of power and in many ways it would be better if they did so more fully. In practice, on a day to day basis, the un-elected bureaucracy holds much power. In some councils this is held in check and in others it is overweening. Union power in councils should not be underestimated. Sometimes we catch a glimpse of the power that the permanent officials know they wield. This is reinforced by the fact that perhaps 90% of local council responsibility or spending is mandated by central government (a good example is the Gambling Act, which the council must abide by, like it or not).
Councillors have some influence over some of what the council does. Is that fair, Alan?
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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They can put rising bollards in the middle of a road. Clair Kober managed to get the government to step in and stop Thamslink building a maintenance building because it would block some people's view of Ally Pally (some people who live in a swing ward).
Power enough for me.
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Permalink Reply by Old-Age-Emporium(OAE) on
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As it's near the climax of Holy Week I shall retire to the Garden of Gethsamene and repent me of my tonal sins, before clambering back to the Statler & Waldorf balcony. Meanwhile I don't think those of us who asked a few questions in our own peculiar ways are out to crucify, scourge or even crown with thorns any adventurous new candidate.
Like John McM, I would like to know if we are to be presented with one serious local Green candidate with a snowball's chance of "making the difference" for us five weeks from today. I'd like to know whether I need to leave my hob-nailed boots with the cobbler with a view to some serious doorstepping over the next month or so.
I certainly have no objection to a clutch of Greens building up their profile in Harringay through a sustained few years of hard graft (as two or three candidates of the two 'main' parties have been doing) but in the Greens' own interests a mere five weeks before polling day is not the ideal starting point. Leave them their Easter weekend thinking time to select their one strong local candidate for May 2010 - then, win or lose, they will have a good result to build on for their next four years.
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Is the Garden in Cyberspace these days? I totally agree with you. There is no point in presenting a diluted package. Take it seriously and give us a chance to make a difference.
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Permalink Reply by matt on
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Kerry Smith-Jefferys, Green party candidate for Harringay Ward said, It is right to point out that Harringay Ward is not a focus ward for the Greens for this local election as it is not a Ward where there has previously been a lot of Green Party activity. However having three names on the ballot paper is important for building both local, area and national profile.
I seem to remember the Greens polling quite well in the last local elections for Harringay ward Kerry. But if our ward is 'not a focus ward' then I guess a Green vote is a wasted vote. Shame really but thanks for being honest. People do keep asking for more honesty from our local politicians. :)
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This is how well they did last year.
Although this time I suspect that we were to be presented with one candidate they may receive a tick that would perhaps otherwise go Labour or LibDem.
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You mean, ... 'last election (2006)'
Yes, they came a respectable third place as a party. Anyway we have our very own Indy now so we can all vote for him.
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Is this Indy so independent he's not depending on our votes? He must have a name though.
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Permalink Reply by Pete McAskie on
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In our experience our candidates do much better relative to the other parties candidates when we field three candidates than when we field one. When we field three we take many more votes off the other parties candidates thus lowering the threshold for a win in first past the post elections.
Candidacies have not all been confirmed by electoral services yet but it looks like this is the first time we will be fielding three candidates in every ward in Haringey.
Harringay ward has, for many years been the second strongest Green voting ward in Haringey so there is a real chance of electing Greens to represent the ward if you are so minded.
The Green Party is a much smaller party than the big three. We have less activists and a lot less money than the other parties. You can look at large donations to political parties on the Electoral Commissions website. We have decided that 2010 is the year we are going to make the breakthrough, not only in getting our first MPs elected, but also in getting the first Greens on to Haringey Council. To be sure of achieving that we need to focus are efforts on our best ward. Sadly that means that Harringay, our second best ward, will receive fairly minmal communication from us in this election. Less than you did in the GLA & Euro elections which, being proportional elections it was more important for us to make voters in all our good wards aware of us and what policies we were standing in. I apologise for this but we feel it is the best route to furthering our policies in Haringey with the avasilable resources. It still remains eminently possible that Greens can be elected in this ward and I, we, believe that our three candidates in Harringay are excellent candidates.
Check out: http://www.greenparty.org.uk/
and: http://haringey.greenparty.org.uk/localsites/haringey.html
When Greens have been elected on to the council we are confident that local membership will further rise (it has almost doubled over the last three years) and we will thus be able to spread ourselves more effectively into more wards. The Green Party is into electoral politics and has to carefully find a strategy to get through in a first past the post system which is heavily weighted against us.
If you support us please bear with us. We are thinking carefully and deeply on strategy on the base of nationwide experience. Better still, help us or join us. Whatever you do, vote for us! End yah boo two party politics in Haringey!
By the way, in the whole of Haringey we came third in the last Euro elections. If more of you voted for what you believe in in all elections more Greens would be elected.
Pete McAskie
Green Party Parliamentary Candidate
Hornsey & Wood Green
(And former Harringay ward candidate)
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Thanks for that, Pete (and sorry, my comment on your page just now overlapped).
I see the logic of your overall strategy but I still think it should allow for what I'd see as a more opportunistic tactic in a 'lesser focus' ward in the sort of election we have this year.
I'm not so sure that the slight hint of preachiness in your last sentence helps!
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This local election, in this ward, is not going to be about party politics, it is going to be about the candidates. The Green party may be the one party with a clear message and an unpolluted brand but that's not going to be good enough.
If OAE and I can find one that we feel is worth our vote then we're going to vote for them, and just speaking for myself, I have never voted Green in my life before.
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