Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Gang shooting at Turnpike Pike lane station
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/hooded-gunman-pulls-out-pistol...
Shocking to think what could have happened to any on of those bullets. Let's hope the police actually start making arrests of those gang members selling drugs outside Turnpike Lane rather than just chasing them off.
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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Is it just me, or have things got worse recently ?
Two separate shootings at the corner of Wightman and Turnpike lane. Two separate shooting incidents at Turnpike Lane Station. Man stabbed to death on Station Road. Man arrested after threatening police with a machete near the Arena.
What is going on ?
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Permalink Reply by Protheroe O'Shea on
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Drug wars between rival gangs is what's going on.
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Oh that's all right then. Finsbury Park Ranger will be along soon to tell us again that it's a waste of police resources to target drug dealers.
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Permalink Reply by DTW on
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The machete attack was an attempted murder on an anti gang police officer. Fair play to the police on that one for putting themselves in harms way.
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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The pedestrianisation of the end of Graham Rd by the tube has had some interesting consequences. I always say that the passage is a crap place to deal drugs or mug people but that looks ideal. Lots of space for you and your mates, room for getaway cars, an alleyway at either end, the green for running across and the safety of the tube station if things go pear shaped. If you are at that location you have so many options to get away; perhaps they could look into some design solutions rather than just moar police officers.
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So you just move the dealers somewhere else instead of dealing with the problem ?
Maybe, on conviction, dealers should be transported to New Zealand ?
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No you're missing the point. I think the design of that area lends itself to crime at the moment.
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To be fair John the area is normally safe save for the people parked right at the top near the tube station. It's well lit and always plenty of people about.
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Permalink Reply by Giles Christian on
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And a stabbing at the junction of Green Lanes and Station Rd. Police are treating it as a murder. What is going on around here? I fear reprisals and a spiral effect
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Permalink Reply by matt on
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9:30pm - and we were told at that public mtg held by the police that they had a dedicated team for Turnpike Lane (covering that time period). Graham Rd is in pretty much a dead end area as far as the road network is concerned so it really shouldn't have been difficult for the police to surround them. That machete attack on the other hand saw a stream of police vehicles head towards the scene. I really don't get it.
Just as a side point, how come this whole scene was filmed/framed by someone's window webcam. Looks all a little too neat.
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I agree we should take it out the hands of the criminals and have drugs managed by the state. However, as they are illegal you can't turn a blind eye as has been suggested around Turnpike Lane. So many people buying has clearly lead to some sort of turf war over what is probably a very lucrative spot
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Permalink Reply by EMC2 on
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Your solution appears reasonable. At first. However the Government is unlikely to either enjoy a monopoly or to supply the more harmful drugs. A criminal market will remain. Nicotine and alcohol are both legal but there remains considerable serious organised criminal engagement through smuggling and counterfeiting. I suspect criminals would continue to provide the skunk etc.
In the 1980s when the bank robbers discovered that smuggling/dealing drugs was way less risky and much more profitable than running around the pavements with sawn-offs, drug trafficking took off and bank robberies declined. The current Mr & Mrs Bigs making a fortune out of drugs are unlikely to pack up and retire. Whatever alternatives they choose will likely still cost a fortune to police. You say "Until we change the laws, however, nothing will change" - but things come and go out of fashion, I often read the teenagers of today drink considerably less than my generation.
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