Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Fortnightly Rubbish Collection in Milton Road N6
Family been at Milton since 1957(57 years) It used to be a lovely road to live in ,but the Council have compromisedour health with their so called savings.The fortnightly collection is unworkable
Had mice infestation for first time last year due to the amount of rubbish,we are not the only ones There is terrible stench in the street and now with the maggots from 3 over full bins we also have flies in basement and upper ground floors.
Cannot have windows open as stench is so bad.
After one week of emptying ,the 3 bins outside our property are overfull and the residents have nowhere to put their rubbish so it has stayed indoors and Therevis a backlog.
I personally have on a weekly basis taken sackloads to the dump,I am refusing to do Haringey's job anymore though.
The residentliving in the basement flat could take no more of this unnecessary filth and has left.
We have foxes excreting by the basementand front door regularly as they feed from torn bags in the pavement.
Also on the pavement are tin lids for animals to cut paws on,used condoms and rats. all you see when you walk down street is rubbish,OLD rubbish,flies,wasps and maggots
When I complained re amount of rubbish generated since fortnightly collection started I was told to get an extra bin,reported to enforcement,Veolia and haringey customer services.
Our green bin is often used as a rubbish bin so is not be very useful
There are only 5 of us at present,what happens when we are full house.
Many houses in this street have 4 people on each floor,so 16 in the house,in this and surrounding roads I highly recommend an exception to your fortnightly collection and bring back weekly or more in this highly densely populated area.
Outside our house today are 3 overfull bins,with maggots and rubbish on the floor.It is not a good way to live.
A return to weekly collection would prevent the health and safety issues resulting from the fortnightly collection.
Do we not deserve a better standard if living?
Had mice infestation for first time last year due to the amount of rubbish,we are not the only ones There is terrible stench in the street and now with the maggots from 3 over full bins we also have flies in basement and upper ground floors.
Cannot have windows open as stench is so bad.
After one week of emptying ,the 3 bins outside our property are overfull and the residents have nowhere to put their rubbish so it has stayed indoors and Therevis a backlog.
I personally have on a weekly basis taken sackloads to the dump,I am refusing to do Haringey's job anymore though.
The residentliving in the basement flat could take no more of this unnecessary filth and has left.
We have foxes excreting by the basementand front door regularly as they feed from torn bags in the pavement.
Also on the pavement are tin lids for animals to cut paws on,used condoms and rats. all you see when you walk down street is rubbish,OLD rubbish,flies,wasps and maggots
When I complained re amount of rubbish generated since fortnightly collection started I was told to get an extra bin,reported to enforcement,Veolia and haringey customer services.
Our green bin is often used as a rubbish bin so is not be very useful
There are only 5 of us at present,what happens when we are full house.
Many houses in this street have 4 people on each floor,so 16 in the house,in this and surrounding roads I highly recommend an exception to your fortnightly collection and bring back weekly or more in this highly densely populated area.
Outside our house today are 3 overfull bins,with maggots and rubbish on the floor.It is not a good way to live.
A return to weekly collection would prevent the health and safety issues resulting from the fortnightly collection.
Do we not deserve a better standard if living?
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Permalink Reply by Nigel Tuppen on
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I give instructions verbally,on the front door and on a 5 page addendum to a tenancy agreement
However it is different if you live in one room to keep any old food in the room.
We had mice infestation from Council owned property next door and the advice from expensive pest control is ddnot keep any food in room unless in glass container
You all understand it is easier in a flat with separate kitchen where your bed is not by the food.
Also it is very difficult to enforce
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Permalink Reply by pamish on
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so take the waste food down, every day, and put it in the food bin. That has to be better than keeping it indoors?
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Yes, I agree but you can't force it
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Then it is up to Veolia, and LBH, to do so. This is where it went wrong, they did not do enough before changing the system. Leaflets through doors are not enough, but Veoila is in it for profit not good performance.
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Yes the enforcement and information has been a shambles. What I find shocking is that a lot of the young renters are the worst offenders and they must have grown up with recycling as the 'norm'.
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Permalink Reply by Lady Chappers on
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On Milton Park, a large number of the high occupancy properties do appear to put their food in the green bins... problem is, because there's no room in front of the houses for the bins, they have to put them on the pavement..... and by the time I walk to the station every morning, I have to side-step all the food waste that has been spewed on the floor by the foxes.
We filled our rubbish bin ahead of collection day for the first time in a year the other week [there's only two of us so not usually a problem, but we had a party :)] so we had to put one bag on the floor. At 11pm that night, I heard a thumping sound. I run downstairs as I thought someone was trying to get in through the window - turns out it was a fox head-butting the bag in order to get into it. We have a front gate that was closed. I still have no idea how the fox accessed our bins. If foxes are that persistent in a closed-off area, no wonder our pavements are such a mess!
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Thankfully your household is only 2 and with visitors already an extra bag.
Multiply that by say 8 and you get to understand the possible amount of rubbish from one house with their visitors.
One family of 4 on one floor had the grandma,aunt and 2 children staying over the summer so that's 8 on one floor
What chance do we have of clean pavement and street.?
The house next door did not order a 3rd bin,instead use our extra one so we have 3 but sadly we can't empty the rubbish from the rooms after about a week of the collectionand there is a backlog.The cycle continues
Our green bin is full of recycling plus others rubbish.
I often took sacks to the dump,but not anymore!
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Don't know solution except more collections and less bins.
I am sick of clearing the road
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Lockable bins would help so only our residents will be able to use our bins.
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As a resident of Milton Road I've read this with interest & wanted to add my tuppence worth. Firstly I want to say that I've lived here for a number of years and I really do enjoy living in this quiet and peaceful little corner of Highgate. You've painted quite a sad and bleak picture which frankly doesn't reflect my experience of living here. Perhaps, being a landlord, your only focus is on the problems and hearing the complaints from your tenants whilst not seeing the day to day reality. Yes, the bin situation certainly does need addressing, and thank you for trying to highlight the problem, but ranting about foreigners, council tenants and other non-compliant neighbours doesn't seem to be constructively helpful to the cause when we know that's it's the fortnightly collections that's the root of the problems.
So having stuck up for our nice little neighbourhood a little, I do completely agree that the bins really should be collected on a weekly basis in an area where the majority of people are not able to store bins in their front gardens due to lower ground flats & steps. Also, it is an exceptionally warm summer for us & of course that is going to result in smelly bins and flies whether you are in the Milton's or elsewhere and it should be weekly collections for ALL during the summer months to combat that. However, if you've had to collect 100 flies from inside your property I would suspect that something is attracting them in there in the first place. My front windows are often wide open and I have no such problems.
Alternatives such as the large communal bins are a possible alternative that the council should look into but it's really the aesthetics that would probably prove problematic for a lot of people. They say they consulted the residents about options but I was certainly never contacted and asked for my opinion. It is obvious that people are still not happy a couple of years on from the changes to collections so it is not a problem that is going to go away for them. They need to at least be willing to open a dialogue with residents.
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Understand how you like the area,we like it too,but feel that it could be much improved by the weekly collection.
I do not rant bad things about foreigners as My family are foreign,came over in the 50's to work.
What I did mention is the amount of people in the houses which causes them to accumulate such a great amount of rubbish going into OUR bins causing the maggots.There is nothing wrong with having visitors who do not cause anti social behaviour,but unfortunately most of them have.
My few tenants do not complain to methey have already complained to the authorities,but as usual ignored.The enant who left could not empty his rubbish after a week and yes if you look at the photos you can understand why.
Yes they are Council tenants next door,10% have been ok,we were burgled 5 times by another one who was a wife beater and drug dealer,many people fled the road because iof him,you may remember him in the 90's beating his wife in the middle of the road,,but my family stood up to him.i am not saying all Council tenants are bad.
I hope a workable solution can be found as Loading the car with other people's rubbish for the dump does not suit me
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Permalink Reply by Clive Carter on
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Milton Resident, late this afternoon and early this evening, Highgate Ward's three Councillors (including me), the Council's Chief Executive and a number of officers spent more than two hours on a Ward Walk, beginning at the Wellington Gyratory and ending in the Miltons.
We were at the Miltons for more than a quarter hour and most of the time we discussed the chronic bin problem. Your local Councillors emphasised the need for an exception to be made to the current bin collection policy of one-size-fits all, also known as fortnightly collections.
Local Councillors will continue to press for a limited restoration of a weekly collection in the very few roads for which it is required.
Clive Carter
Highgate Councillor
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