Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Fortnightly Rubbish Collection in Milton Road N6
Had mice infestation for first time last year due to the amount of rubbish,we are not the only ones There is terrible stench in the street and now with the maggots from 3 over full bins we also have flies in basement and upper ground floors.
Cannot have windows open as stench is so bad.
After one week of emptying ,the 3 bins outside our property are overfull and the residents have nowhere to put their rubbish so it has stayed indoors and Therevis a backlog.
I personally have on a weekly basis taken sackloads to the dump,I am refusing to do Haringey's job anymore though.
The residentliving in the basement flat could take no more of this unnecessary filth and has left.
We have foxes excreting by the basementand front door regularly as they feed from torn bags in the pavement.
Also on the pavement are tin lids for animals to cut paws on,used condoms and rats. all you see when you walk down street is rubbish,OLD rubbish,flies,wasps and maggots
When I complained re amount of rubbish generated since fortnightly collection started I was told to get an extra bin,reported to enforcement,Veolia and haringey customer services.
Our green bin is often used as a rubbish bin so is not be very useful
There are only 5 of us at present,what happens when we are full house.
Many houses in this street have 4 people on each floor,so 16 in the house,in this and surrounding roads I highly recommend an exception to your fortnightly collection and bring back weekly or more in this highly densely populated area.
Outside our house today are 3 overfull bins,with maggots and rubbish on the floor.It is not a good way to live.
A return to weekly collection would prevent the health and safety issues resulting from the fortnightly collection.
Do we not deserve a better standard if living?
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Permalink Reply by Clive Carter on
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Nigel, by coincidence, this afternoon I took the following photos in Milton Road, that show the capacity that's currently needed, after the council switched to fortnightly collection for general rubbish.
No shot is a duplicated group of bins or, each photo shows a different group of bins. Those looking up or down the road show the extraordinary effect on the pavement amenity:
Seven in a row. No bins were harmed – or moved – in the photo shoot
These ones look familiar. Foxes could have a go here.
Looks like some kind of assembly of Daleks awating orders
... and there's still about five days to go before Veolia do a general collection
Ham & High Poll: Haringey Council blasted for ‘spending too little’ on bin collections
What needs to happen is for the council to make selective exceptions to their one-size-fits-all policy. The two roads affected in Highgate Ward represent about two to three per cent of the number of roads in the Ward. I would guess that the proportion over the whole Borough isn't wildly different.
If anyone in another Ward in the Borough believes they have a similar problem in their road, could they please post?
That way we might be about to get an idea of the overall number of roads.
Councillor—Highgate Ward
Liberal Democrat Party
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Permalink Reply by Nigel Tuppen on
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I really can't add much more except to say we have gone backwards in time since my wife's parents bought the property.
Haringey ,could not do much more to make the area as unattractive as possible for anyone to want to move to or stay in the area.
And I will not mention the Council tax or the HMO licence fee as I really will not be able to stop
It is crying out or help (And yes looks ugly too as well as the stench and flies)
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I would just like to add,CONSERVATION AREA
Just exactly what is the Borough conserving in Milton road and other surrounding roads??????
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More alarming information on what Haringey has allowed to happen
It really is morally indefensible.
Researchers at a nottingham Uni reported in 2007 found that they found bacteria from the same family as The Plague in dustbins emptied fortnightly.
PMS Micro(Andy Muirhead) a food microbiologist tested 2 loads of domestic rubbish
1. In a bin for one week
2. In a bin for two weeks.
With typical rubbish in a family bin, in Milton's case up to 4 families in one property,so a lot more rubbish.
These were tested using a large damp cotton tipped swab and swabs were then cultured,
Results are frightening for fortnightly ones,
Mr Muirhead explains "The levels of bacteria in the weekly bin were more or less what we expected to find.
However what our experiment shows is how these can build up to potentially dangerous levels after 2 weeks.
He goes on to say "And the greater the no of colonies of bacteria the greater the chance you will be in contact with a large enough dose to trigger illness."
The rats and foxes attracted by the rubbish spread it around and make us very vulnerable.
Diseases found in fortnightly rubbish included enterobacteriacea,e coli,bacillus cereus and clostridium performing ens
Council you are putting us all at risk particularly in this area where the population is extremely dense
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Permalink Reply by VIX on
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Same in N17. Terrible stench on the high street and overflowing rogue wheelie bins all over the place.
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IT WOULD be useful to know the experience of anyone in the following roads elsewhere in the Borough, where the council's ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL policy may also need adjustment.
- N15 — Cissbury Road (collections every Thursday, refuse collection 17 and 31 July)
- N17 — Spigurnell Road (collections every Friday, refuse collection 25 July and 8 August)
- N22 — Eldon Road (collections every Friday, refuse collection August 1 and 15)
- N22 — Lyndhurst Road (ditto)
These roads were identified 20 months ago in a Report by the Overview and Scrutiny Committee.
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Is the recycling more important than people's health?
Get the riubbish emptied firstly then the public will make more of an effort with recycling.
Have you noticed the estate agents are using old pictures on their Ads,how could they rent out our property with sackloads of old rubbish there?
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IN THE drive to increase recycling, public health should not be overlooked.
The biggest single effect of the halving of general rubbish collection has been to save money. In the most part it has worked. It happens to be adequate for me personally.
However, the Council needs to accept and recognize that there remain a tiny proportion of streets where the 'halving' policy fails to meet the needs of local residents, due to the the proportion of HMOs, the population density of the street and due to the lack of front garden space to house the bins required.
When trying to upload the Council's report (previous post), it fell from my grasp. It can be downloaded (Mac: control-click; PC: right-click), below. The Miltons are dealt with on page 15 (or 17 of the PDF) with more photos (21 or 23):
Councillor—Highgate Ward
Liberal Democrat Party - Attachments:
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Permalink Reply by ant on
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Clive, on want to take you up on the "In the most part it has worked." comment. No it hasn't. Well ok, yes it has worked in that its saving a little money for the council but its turned our neighbourhoods into a disgrace. Someone made a similar comment on HoL earlier this week and it annoyed me so i took a few photos on one short 150 yard walk to school in the morning down just a quarter of my street:
There is nothing unusual about those photos, its not a "tiny proportion", you see it on pretty much every residential street in Harringay now. Its just bins bins bins as far as you can see, often overflowing, bags piled up around them, and where the council has "engaged" with a house they just completely filled up the front garden with more bins. In this hot weather lots of them stink. Its the sort of thing that in most other towns and countries would be hidden down an ally or out the back of a building not sitting for all to see and smell in the front gardens by the footpath.
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I often tell my friends and family about the wheelie bin problems, probably a bit too much sometimes!!!! Yet when friends and family visit they are shocked at the situation and cannot believe this is happening in a city like London let alone anywhere else. If Haringey cannot get something like refuse collections right, there is no hope!
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Clive, on want to take you up on the "In the most part it has worked." comment.
OK, fair enough, I should have qualified that to, in the most part it has worked in Highgate Ward. Obviously I'm most familiar with this Ward. The kind of problems in the Miltons (-Avenue, -Road and part of the -Park) are not seen elsewhere in Highgate Ward.
In terms of number of streets, we're talking approximately three per cent of that Ward.
I cannot speak for the rest of the Borough, which is why I solicited comment (above) about any similar problems in other Wards. I listed the four roads that were identified in the Council's Report of 20 months ago (Appendix A, p.12 and following. It included photos of bins in the Miltons. Somethings appear not to change)
Your photos depict concentrations of unsightly bins, but except in a single instance, they're not lined up on the pavement as they are in the Miltons.
I accept that they probably stink, especially in this weather.
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Thank you for the information VIX. Could you let me now which part of your high road is affected? Could you expand on what you mean by rogue wheelie bins all over the place, it would be helpful. Thank you.
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