Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Election date set for May 22nd - will St Anns produce a shock result?
Election date set for May 22nd.
Four months of joyous campaigning from the local candidates. But who and which party will win ... is even more intriguing the last two elections.
Maybe the St Anns ward will finally join Harringay in throwing up a mix of party councillors.
Last election however Harringay stood alone within the borough in producing this outcome. We were with Bounds Green and one other ward with giving a mix of party councillors in 2006 but in 2010 they went fully Labour.
So come on St Anns residents, are you a little quirky or just down right predictable? 
Shock result or just plain dull?
May 22nd is your day.
We are all watching!
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Note to Harringay Ward voters - lets keep it mixed like we have done for the last 8 years. It's served us pretty well. 
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Permalink Reply by Narendra Makanji on
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The one 'other' in 2006 was Noël Park, where two lib-Dems and one Labour were elected. But during their term of office, one of the Lib-Dems defected to Labour; then the Labour one joined the Tories. The ward ended up with one-of-each !
Wisely, the confusion was ended in 2010!
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Permalink Reply by matt on
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Blimey! What a bunch of cross dressers your 2006 councillors were back then.
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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Political cross-dressers? Some still are. Tories wearing the political clothes of traditional Labour and Liberal Parties; to get themselves selected and elected.
Plus there are the zombies. They have no political ideas at all but just come along for the ride and maybe the chance to wear the mayoral chain and a funny hat from time to time.
(Tottenham Hale ward councillor)
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Permalink Reply by Clive Carter on
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Political cross-dressers
This is a point I made in the thread about New Labour's Gambling Act 2005: i.e. the confusion of labels with content.
New Labour continued with a number of questionable Conservative policies (e.g. PFIs) and then went for a few privatisations of their own that would make even Conservatives blush with embarrassment.
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Yes Clive it's all very confusing for voters! Little to distinguish betw the parties. Is this democracy representing middle ground voters or just laziness with policy ideas?
Alan, all these political cross-dressers - maybe all the candidates have a yearning to show other hidden talents leading up to the elections. An X-Factor Haringey show for them could do them wonders with the voters or ... make us run for the hills
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I believe that any elected representative that wants to defect should be required to resign immediately and contest the subsequent by election!
In the present council at least two councillors changed their allegiance within a few months of being elected. And the 'suspension ' or 'withdrawal of whip' is used as a disciplinary measure that is without any political price for the Person concerned or their Party.
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Narendra, I can see a moral case for someone to "resign immediately and contest the subsequent by-election" though it's clearly not legally enforceable. And hard to see how this would work. As you know, electoral law recognises party affiliations but councillors are elected by the electors - not the Party.
An "immediate" requirement would also be a problem since people may turn out to have been in negotiations with another party for some months. During which time their current colleagues are presumably kept in the dark. According to the Tottenham Tories, former Labour councillor Brian Haley was negotiating with both the LibDems and the Tories. Though he himself denied this.
Labour people heard whispers about discreet talks going on with someone from the LibDems; but not that it was Cllr Ali Demirci. As for Alan Dobbie ratting to Justin Hinchcliffe's little group of Tories, I was amazed that anyone would do that, let alone rubbing shoulders with Eric Pickles.
Which leads on to another more fundamental factor. Tories in Haringey are currently spoiled for choice, as there are now - in effect - three parties supporting right-wing Neo-Con policies.
(Tottenham Hale ward councillor)
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Alan,
You're right about the distinction between party and individual , the latter being the legal entity elected. I would argue that this is a 19th century concept that was out of date at least 70 years ago. For example, the Indian constitution was amended nearly 40 years ago. The reality of Party formulations should be recognised, accepted and legitimised.
Below, a brief description:
The 52nd amendment to the Constitution added the Tenth Schedule which laid down the process by which legislators may be disqualified on grounds of defection. A member of parliament or state legislature was deemed to have defected if he either voluntarily resigned from his party or disobeyed the directives of the party leadership on a vote. That is, they may not vote on any issue in contravention to the party’s whip. Independent members would be disqualified if they joined a political party. Nominated members who were not members of a party could choose to join a party within six months; after that period, they were treated as a party member or independent member.
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In our Haringey set-up I imagine this would produce rows 'n' rows o' the finest Council bozos. HMS Nodding poodle
- Sir Joseph Porter: I grew so rich that I was sent
- By a pocket borough into Parliament.
- I always voted at my party's call,
- And I never thought of thinking for myself at all.
- Chorus: And he never thought of thinking for himself at all.
- Sir Joseph Porter: I grew so rich that I was sent
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