Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Ducketts Common
A 'Street Briefing' will be held by Chief Inspector Michael Loebenberg on Wednesday 9th April at 1900 about Ducketts Common where you will be able to receive further updates on what is happening in this area.
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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No. That was them completely going out of their way to engage with the community. *cough*.
I'll say it again, the person running that @MPSHaringey account deserves a raise, funded by the money they pointlessly spend on PR. Glyn did more for the community's respect for policing than any of those young men racing around in five door hatchbacks too. I have to keep in mind that when I encounter a police officer they probably have a target to meet... joy.
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Permalink Reply by Charlotte on
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I dont know. Sounded as if they got more than small fry and that would be great but the small fry is hanging around in our parks and streets so I am happy for them to get picked up as well. Shame you didnt make it to the briefing - you have some good questions :)
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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How much does it cost to maintain law and order overall FPR ?
Are you happy to let criminality have free rein ?
Do you think it's too much trouble to charge the driver who hit Gerry Platt ?
If you are murdered would you happy to let it pass without your death being investigated ?
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Not a weird question at all. Just wondering where you draw the line in condoning lawbreaking.
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Permalink Reply by Cat on
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Laws aren't absolutes, something being illegal does not make it necessarily wrong - see, for example, the marital rape laws or laws about homosexuality. I'm sure anyone sensible would see that these precedents were wrong and it is a good thing that they were changed.
Prohibition objectively causes harm - to both society and users - and we can see this when we look back at the alcohol prohibition in the States.
Maybe this would be of interest to you? http://profdavidnutt.wordpress.com/2012/06/29/hypothesising-an-alte...
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Thanks. I like to think that intelligent people trust folk who have dedicated years of robust research to a topic over misplaced notions of 'common sense' and civil obedience.
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Cat I'm not arguing that decriminalisation would be a bad ( or even good ) thing. But I do take issue with the statement that laws are not absolutes.
You cannot cherrypick which laws you are going to obey and which not.
Yes, it's good that the laws on homosexuality and marital rape have changed. If you want the posession, sale and use of narcotics to be decriminalised, lobby your MP.
Until then, obey the law or take the consequences.
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That carries the implication that in the past gay people should have refrained from having sexual relations with people of the same sex because otherwise they would be cherrypicking. Am I correct in assuming this is something you supported?
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I supported the law as it stood, but I thought it needed to be changed.
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How bizarre. If everybody accepted the status quo, nothing would ever change. Law and society would stagnate if it weren't for dissent. If gay people had avoided having relations, the laws would never have been challenged.
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Did you miss the bit where I said " I thought it needed to be changed. " ? Maybe I should have added " I agitated for change "
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