Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Dealing with fare dodgers

After recent discussions over the demise of the local bendy bus (29) with hot topics including fare dodging (!), we see below a very direct approach to dealing with such dodgers;

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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on December 13, 2011 at 21:35

Oh you wuss Osbawn. If you don't pay your taxes you go to jail. If you won't go do you think they just let you off? No, they blimmin well throw you in, just like that.

If you don't pay your fare you have to get off the train. If you won't get off is it just a case of sit there and hope they leave you alone? I can play that game.

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Permalink Reply by matthew cuthbert on December 13, 2011 at 23:16

The only place it is impossible to 'fair avaid is the National Express, loads of students that can afford the train hide in the loos, it's not a sign of the times, it just happens all over the world, someday they will be responsible parents like us?, I guess the ticket collector will equally get ticked off by the train co, they have a duty of care to adhere to, & Big guy used more than reasonable force

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Permalink Reply by StephenBln on December 14, 2011 at 3:12

No, it doesn't happen all over the world.. or should I say to a much lesser extent..

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Permalink Reply by matthew cuthbert on December 14, 2011 at 12:42

All I'll say is have a conversation
with a ticket collector. I'm also now middle aged, and I remember the 90's till 2007 like it was yesterday, but
in Melbourne and Paris I've seen them jump straight over the turnstiles, in central London news papers are used to fool sensors at tube gates, there are usually students from New Street in Brum to London or Edinburgh who get cought out, it's part of being young and foolish and fedup, or trying it on, or just getting cought short, young people do live a subsistance lifestyle untill they gain employment.
Public transport is too expensive in the UK, staffing numbers are being pinched,
education costs have gone through the roof, it's not going to get better.
I'm not excusing fair evasion, but I do feel I understand situations studens can face, and the 80's policy of user pays needs to be redressed. Ken had a go in his time, and talks about 'fares fair.' I've also heard how much this deeply upsets the working person paying vast amounts to commute from their homes.
You can always tell a governments
policy on their language: investment vs subsidy.
The other scenario for everyone is do you get on the train in a deperate rush and rely on the understanding of the ticket collector at the other end, a greater problem where train frequency is low, who hasn't been there?

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Permalink Reply by Old-Age-Emporium(OAE) on December 14, 2011 at 20:38

I'm not excusing fair evasion

I think fair evasion's fair enough. And School Fair evasion's even fairer.

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Permalink Reply by james walsh on December 14, 2011 at 19:29

Roger Fife* I was caught going through the turnstile without a ticket on the new York subway (another story some other time) and arrested by two police officers. They took me to the special room to process me so i could be taken down to 'the tombs' (main holding station downtown Manhattan) but almost immediately let me go with a smile and a wave. Why ? because the arresting officer was also called James Walsh.

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Permalink Reply by StephenBln on December 14, 2011 at 20:44

So the city pays .... round about three times as much then in 1/ The Policeman's time 2/ providing a hotel room for two nights with breakfast 'thrown in' 3/ transport to the police station.. whereas a fine would suffice..

It's all a question of priorities ..

I'm not sure the miserly Harringay Council Tax payers would consider that a good deal..