Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Cycling along Green Lanes
There is growing impatience and frustration about the Council’s lack of action on improving cycling and pedestrian safety on Green Lanes.* This mounting concern was covered in a recent piece in the Ham and High (see link below) about this and the growing discontent from cyclist about the safety of cycling along Green Lanes – either as a commuter, or just travelling to the local shops and services.
https://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/25393803.cycling-campaigner-wants-pr...
As Trump would say…. “Thank you for your attention to this matter.”
*and elsewhere across the borough. All the cycle routes from surrounding boroughs stop abruptly at the Haringey border!
Cycling along Green Lanes has been described as 'hairy' (Image: Carla Francome) (Image: Carla Francome)
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Permalink Reply by Melissa Proust
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More people use the bus than cycle. Personally I'd rather more people took the bus than felt the need to drive. If we had better infrastructure for buses so that they weren't jammed up all the time then more people would use them and leave the car at home. This would enable business users ie vans to move around more freely. Cyclists make up only a small percentage of the total but are by far the most vocal and entitled. As usual when the weather is good then the illusion of a cycling heaven appears... come a cold wet mid winters day, when cycle lanes are completely abandoned apart from poor uber eats drivers, then we hear far less from this "interest" group... probably because they are sitting on a nice warm dry bus!
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Permalink Reply by Clive Carter
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HARINGEY Council listens more carefully to the borough's car-owning minority than to the non-car-owning majority.
Next-door Boroughs are forging ahead with cycling infra while on present form, Haringey will be among the last handful of local authorities in London to properly accommodate cycling.
The council lag two decades behind Waltham Forest and are lagging possibly three decades behind Paris.
This sorry state of affairs is due to a combination of factors: lack of political support, lobbying by businesses and a leadership focussed on identity politics plus the entrenched opposition from the council's Highwaymen.
DELIVERY: meanwhile, the council is committed to delivering on publications and public relations.
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THE addiction of some car-owners is such that they are not always honest nor able to maintain a sense of perspective.
Disclosure: former car and motorcycle owner; current owner of two bicycles and two legs.
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Dan...it's all about Haringey not wanting to upset the businesses along Green Lanes as they get good Business rates from all these successful restaurants, coffee shops, hardware, bakery and grocers... etc...
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Permalink Reply by George
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I witnessed 2 cyclists get taken out by a single parked-up driver opening their car door into traffic just last week on Green Lanes in front of Gökyüzü, both riders crashed and hit the floor and were lucky to walk away with just scratches and bruises. The road is a gauntlet and the absence of decent cycle lanes in the area should shame those who manage the borough's infrastructure. The difference when you cross the borough's boundaries into Hackney, Walthamstow, Enfield and Islington is like night and day, cycle lanes disappear almost immediately once you're in Haringey.
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What about a cycle lane down the centre of Green Lanes then Carla? Or... get rid of the business parking either side shown so clearly in your photo! I wouldn't advise dangerously cycling side by side like this on major bus routes we need. Cycling Proficiency testing needed for adults too.
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Well Mark Williams...(see item 8)...I was hoping for a proper discussion but you insist that cyclists should be the priority and that your world view is right. Sometimes it's good to consider other people's views and not dismiss them out of hand. That's intellectual curiosity and dialogue actually..No point in replying as I suspect you always want to have the last word.
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Green Lanes is the obvious place to start for improving cycling in the borough, but the whole borough needs looking at, it's not just North-South movement but East-West too. West Green Road, Philip Lane and Seven Sisters Road have virtually no protected cycling lanes.
Last week I had to cycle from Green Lanes to the retail park at Tottenham Hale, almost the entire route is cycle lane free - there's about 50 metres of cycle lane on Philip Lane - crossing the Highroad and heading right towards Tottenham Hale after the High Cross junction is pretty dangerous - it involves crossing 3 lanes of fast moving busy traffic to reach the retail park, you have to be a confident experienced cyclist to navigate that.
If you were a resident of the many new developments going up in Tottenham Hale and wanted to cycle to go get food or a drink you'd be much better placed to head to Walthamstow where the entire route from Tottenham Hale is covered by cycle lanes.
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