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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Recently I've noticed a few electric vehicles (not hybrids) parked outside terraced houses on the Ladder being charged via a cable running from the property across the pavement. Is this now allowed or does Haringey council turn a blind eye to this? In most (but not all) cases the cable was protected by a heavy rubber channel that buggies, shopping trolleys, cycles, etc can easily ride over; one imaginative EV motorist even had a scaffold pole lashed vertically to the side of a van with the cable passing about 10 feet above the pavement to an upstairs window.

I first asked about this on HoL 4 years ago (see here) but the discussion petered out - understandable really since back then 100% EVs were much less common than they are now.

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well it's going to involve the council to some degree, as it is street works and planning permission.

I don’t see the problem, cable is being installed everywhere. I’d assume that must need some permission of some kind. And back in the day so did every individual satellite dish, I think Maggie just allowed a free for all and here we are dishes everywhere. 

Cable electrical, Openreach, Virgin et  al are under the utilities bracket. They still have to put in planning permission if they want to put in a street cabinet. Any excavation of their ducting or replacement of jointing chambers must be carried out to a defined standard. The local council is responsible for enforcing this as they are for scheduling any non emergency streetworks so that traffic management can happen.

Ahhhh

If the government has outlawed petrol and diesel vehicles, then it’s incumbent on them (or local authorities) to provide infrastructure for electric charging points or economic incentives for private companies to do so, though obviously the electricity supply would be chargeable to customers. Plenty of other local authorities have already gone down the lamp-post charging point route, but Haringey has shown no commitment to anything that would spread the burden more equably between residents and the council, preferring instead to make life harder by creating LTNs but without planning effective alternatives to the hated four wheels.

The problem here is the electrical power infrastructure required to provide multiple charging points on every street just isn't there. Much of Harringay was electrified in the 1920's & 1930's when a 10kW (kilowatt) load was considered more than any normal household would ever need back then, when electricity was used mainly for lighting. But with 22kW and even 100 kW chargers being demanded by by EV drivers, that means the street cabling has to support between 2 and 10 extra houses worth of load (by 1930's standards) for every charger installed. If that capacity isn't there then the chargers can't be installed unless a major upgrade of street cabling and local substations is carried out first.

The UK power industry is well aware there's no way Britain's power distribution infrastucture can support a wholesale shift to pure EVs and they want to know who is going to pay for it to be upgraded. It's all every well talking about lots of windfarms and other renewables - the problem is connecting the consumers to these power sources.

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