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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Sounds like things have gone wrong with the traffic at Sainsbury's again. Tweets today:

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, anyone else had problems in  car park. We were stuck for 1hour. The Manager refused to do anything, too busy.
 discussing service at Harringay 2day! Vicky the Manager needs to be sacked. Will not be wasting my money with you anymore!
 the manager refused to help & threatened to sack the carpark guys if they left  carpark! Running feud with HBase


Anyone else affected?

 

 

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Yeah, we were stuck there ages yesterday. The whole car park system is just so badly laid out and so if you get stuck in the wrong place, it can take you forever to get out.

I remember once taking a wrong turn in there once due to be entirely confused as to where I was actually going and the car park attendant came over to tell me he was calling the police on me! I was asking what I'd done wrong, the whole place was heaving and he stood there screaming that I'd gone over some (invisible) marking and deserved to have the police called. Nice service!

It's a mess but people still take the car despite experience!

Before it was re-engineered I spoke to a manager about the poor access for cyclists & nothing was done.

Options:

1. get the bus (&get stuck behind the cars).

2. Walk (there is a limit to how much you can carry).

3. Cycle with panniers or trailer; still the best option despite the poor facilities, when will they provide appropriate access for cyclists?

It's not the internal layout that is the problem; it's the fact that the only exit is on to a road that is itself very busy. If there any problems on Green Lanes you quickly get gridlock in the carpark. No end of fiddling around with the layout will change that.

Gerry is right. If you can avoid it don't drive there. If I did have to drive I probably would go somewhere else.

Anyone know what state of play is with the Hornsey Sainsburies plan? That will be another case of traffic he'll if it goes ahead.
thank you Alison (it's always good to know I'm right!). So when is Sainsburys going to recognise that the bicycle is the appropriate means and create appropriate access?
I don't see the difficulty with bike access. Do you mean there are no bike stands where you can padlock the bike?

I'm speaking for myself rather than Gerry but the main problem I have there is that all their dedicated bike stands are tucked away at the less well used end of the carpark where they are very easily pinched (as various past posts testify). Which is why people end up locking their bikes in annoying but more public places near the trolleys.

Getting there and back is also not so great. The route in is designed for cars and not bikes; it's a narrow road packed with (often cross) drivers. Trying to get into the appropriate lane to turn right into GL is particularly tricky, especially if you have lots of shopping.

I've not had a problem getting into the appropriate lane to turn right, I enter the road into that lane and never go into the left lane. Also, I don't go down the side of the cars (= potentially dangerous), I wait in line just as a car would do.

Access from the Hermitage Road side is OK except there is often a car parked where the curb is low (even more frustrating, I imagine, for wheelchair users).

From Green Lanes: if a cyclist takes the same route as a car there is a horrible ridge of bricks set into the road just after the petrol station. Most cyclists mount the pavement at the exit of the petrol station; an accident waiting to happen. Likewise; the same route when leaving, you have to get onto the petrol station exit and then wait to do a right turn.

Yes, although from a selfish point of view it might take some of the traffic away from "our" Sainsbury's. I wondered what the problem was on GL tonight: it took me ten minutes to get out of Burgoyne and back onto Umfreville.

things have gone wrong with the traffic

 

Traffic.

"I'm in traffic"

"The traffic's terrible"

Delayed due to traffic.

"I'm caught up in the traffic"

... those in the traffic are the traffic.

If you don't want to be hampered by traffic,

don't be part of it. If you don't join it, beat it!

I'm sure we've had 4,500 posts on Sainsbury meltdown in the past three years, all agreeing that Sainsbury trafficking is as evil as all those who participate in it. Now that we've reached consensus, can we just stop?

Green Lanes was down to one lane between the retail park and Endymion road (in the direction of Manor House) today. They were tarmacking around the bus stop there.

So for traffic leaving the retail park and turning left, there was half the normal capacity.

And the predictable result was chaos in the retail park.

Far too many horns honking. I am pretty sure sounding your horn while stationary in a built up area is an offence, in which case the police would have had a field day if they had seen fit to show up.

Internet shopping for big deliveries and a lovely granny shopping trolley for any other smaller trips is a suggestion....ours is a lovely leopardskin number and cost a tenner. It is remarkably robust.

Internet deliveries.

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