Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Alroy Road Pedestrian Crossing Campaign
Cllr David Schmitz and I together with one of local activists, Asha Kaur have launched a campaign to get the council to address this and explore the possibility of putting a pedestrian crossing here. I have asked them to look at the number of accidents at this location and to explore possible funding streams.
The junction is very busy with traffic coming from three directions at once, often at considerable speed. There are seldom any gaps to allow people to cross.
Large numbers of people from the Harringay Ladder going to Finsbury Park and residents coming from Stroud Green going to Green Lanes cross here.
We want the council to do something about this very dangerous junction before there is fatality here.
Please support this campaign by signing our petition using the link below:
http://campaigns.libdems.org.uk/alroyroad&petition=success&...
Karen Alexander
Liberal Democrat Member for Harringay Ward
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Permalink Reply by KP on
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I'd be interested to know what if anything is being done on this. I often walk down from the park and try to cross near the mini-round-about and have noticed cars do travel way too fast along that road. It really does need something to reduce the speed of traffic
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Permalink Reply by Karen Alexander on
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The response we have from Highways at Haringey Council so far is unfortunately, the Highway Works Plan (HWP) for the current financial year has been finalised and does not contain provision for the further consideration of your request at this present time.
They appreciate our concerns and will place this location on our provisional road safety list for consideration when developing our 2012/13 HWP.
I have chased this to ensure this will be on the next Highways Plan.
It would really help to get as many residents as possible to sign our online petition which is at the beginning of this thread. When we did a door to door we got an incredibly good response.
The more people we can get this out to and sign the online petition the better and stronger case we will have to present to the council
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Permalink Reply by Protheroe O'Shea on
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such a shame
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Permalink Reply by TTTH on
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It's the same response from Haringey Council every year. I have been requesting a crossing since 2003
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I have had a response from the council on this - very disappointing news I am afraid. They did not consider that putting a pedestrian crossing at this dangerous location to be a priority so when finalising the 2012/2013 programme it was not considered and therefore will not be included in the Sustainable Transport Works Plan approved by Cabinet.
I am very cross that they didn't have the courtesy to liaise with councillors before making this decision especially as we have been asking for this for years at the request of many local residents.
I shall be liasing with the council to see how we can progress this in the future.
It would seem that the council is not that concerned by residents very real concerns about the danger this junction forms.
Cllr Schmitz, myself and our colleague Asha Kaur will continue to liaise and press the council on this.
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Permalink Reply by ant on
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Slightly off topic of this thread but do you know if the crossing at Frobisher Rd/Green Lanes is ever going to go ahead?
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This is something that Cllr Schmitz has been doing the bulk of work on but as far as I am aware it will be going ahead as part of the works that will come out of the chunk of TfL monies that is winging its way to Green Lanes. I am not sure of the timetable I am afraid but I would imagine it will be sometime next year.
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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Yes, it's definitely going ahead and the initial work has been commissioned.
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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I'd suggest a Freedom of Information Act Request for: (1) the background papers, emails etc, relating to the particular decision to turn this down; (2) comparative accident stats; and (3) the cost of a crossing. When it comes to decisions about Highways you sometimes have to gouge-out the information.
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Thanks Alan, thats really useful and a good way forward.
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Permalink Reply by David Robson on
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Thanks for updating us.
Further to Alan's suggestion I am happy to do this (unless you already have Karen/Alan?). Alternatively is there a member of the Cabinet we can ask to clarify why they did not consider this and why they didn't consult councilors on this (or is this a waste of time - afraid I haven't had the joys of dealing with a local council before so not sure how good they are at responding)
Would we also need to use FoI request in order to find out how they determine what is included in the Sustainable Transport Works Plan? I've tried searching the council website for any information on this, but with no luck.
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David, I'm not one of the Harringay ward councillors, just someone who thinks there's far too much secrecy in Koberdom. Maybe you and Karen can get together on the wording of the questions.
Do please consider using the website WhatDoTheyKnow.com. It's free, reasonably straightforward and has the advantage of making your questions and the replies accessible to anyone.
"Sustainable Transport Works Plan"? Isn't all this pretentious renaming a real pain? And results in perfectly useful words and concepts being emptied of meaning and turned into Brand Packaging.
Anyway it's on the website here. Unfortunately the PDF file suffers from the usual Haringey practice of being a scan of a print-out of an electronic file. (Yes, you read that right.) So unless you have some pretty good software you can't readily search or retrieve information from it.
I've explained to them why this is fatuous, but it makes no difference. Perhaps Claire Kober and Joe Goldberg think it's sustainable, going forward.
(Labour councillor Tottenham Hale ward)
P.S. The Haringey page I linked to also mentions a webcast of the meeting. But I couldn't get it to work. Perhaps it's my PC; or maybe they've recycled the bytes?
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