Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
“All foreigners need deporting”
All foreigners need deporting
… is alleged to have been posted by Haringey Councillor Sheila Peacock in a WhatsApp Group.
Today, the Harringay Community Press reported that Cllr Peacock has been suspended by Labour after deport foreigners message.
Sheila Peacock is no stranger to ill-considered statements.
As the Mayor of Haringey several times, would Cllr Peacock not have officiated at UK naturalisation ceremonies at the Civic Centre?
Sheila Peacock is a Labour candidate for South Tottenham in the May 2026 local elections, but one has to wonder if she would not feel more at home in the Party of Nigel Farage.
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton
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I've read the Haringey Community Press report on this. To be honest it's less than clear and helpful. It involves three current Haringey councillors. One of whom - Sheila Peacock - denies she posted the offensive words.
Is that possible? Of course it is. People's online accounts do get hacked. Usually to scam and cheat them out of money. But also to smear them and try to damage their public reputation. My advice: stay away from Arsebook and What'scrap.
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Permalink Reply by Clive Carter
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I pulled the plug on FaceBook years ago; Zuckerberg also owns WhatsApp.
Cllr Peacock's denial appears to relate—not to the offensive words—but to a video (since deleted) that was "accidentally sent" by Mark grosskopf, who apologised for posting the video.
The HCP wrote: The original “foreigners need deporting” message was sent in response to a video posted by Labour councillor Mark Grosskopf on Monday, 3rd November.
The wording is unclear in the small or original screenshot that HCP published; I've reproduced it at a larger size here (click to enlarge):
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Clive, I originally qualified and practiced as a lawyer and still have a strong ethical belief in fairness and truthfulness; and getting at the facts. Through my life I haven't always lived up to my own principles and have said stupid things which I was ashamed of and apologised for.
In this instance I'm not going to speculate about what was said to whom. The Labour Party is following its proper rules and carrying out an investigation as needed.
It must surely be plain to very many people that so-called 'social media' are often shockingly anti-social and need handling with great caution. This applies especially when someone is a public figure. Trebly so if such people are politicians with an election due next May.
I'm not suggesting ultra caution to the point of empty tedium. One Starmer is enough. But boredom is better than the opposite extreme : opening your mouth to change feet.
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Permalink Reply by Brian Mahoney
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Why is an obviously diminished 94 year old still a local councillor?
Ordinarily I advocate for experience, both work and life, as adding weight to a person's suitability for a public role. After all, that's why the young men are the Lieutenant's and the older men (and yes women) are the Generals. However, 94 is pushing it. I'd make an exception if the person was still competent and on top of their game but obviously that is not the case in this situation.
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Wow, thought you made a mistake with her age, but apparently she really is 94 then !
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https://lgiu.org/the-impressive-career-and-many-hats-of-cllr-shelia...
This link takes you to the Local Government Information Unit and the page on its award for Sheila.
It explains why so many people who've known her personally for many years have overwhelming doubt about whether Sheila would or could use the crass crude language attributed to her.
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It's likely a crude hack from some disgruntled member. A criminal offense perhaps has been committed ? Seems the police might be curious to take a look.
Grok tells me:
1. Changing their own display name to match someone else
- Anyone can change their WhatsApp display name (the name that appears in chats) to exactly match another group member’s name.
- They can also copy or use a very similar profile picture.
- When they send a message, it will look almost identical to a message from the real person, especially in large groups where people don’t check phone numbers carefully.
- This is the most common and easiest way to impersonate someone in a group.
2. Creating a fake account with the victim’s name and photo
- Someone can create a new WhatsApp account using the real member’s name, photo, and even a similar or spoofed number (though WhatsApp now makes number spoofing much harder).
- They then get added to the group (or re-added) and post as that person.
- This is more obvious if the real person is still active in the group with their original
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Seems selfish not to stand down, out your feet up and nurture the younger generation ? Local politics is weird.
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I bet it's a crude hack. Easy to do. Easy to prove.
Yes, in the UK, impersonating another person in a WhatsApp group (or anywhere online) can very easily be illegal, depending on why it’s done and what harm it causes.
Here are the main laws that almost always make it illegal in practice:
Law When it applies Typical outcome Malicious Communications Act 1988 (s.1) Sending a message that is “grossly offensive”, indecent, menacing, or false and known to be false for the purpose of causing distress or anxiety. Criminal offence – up to 2 years prison + fine Communications Act 2003 (s.127) Sending a message via a public electronic network (WhatsApp counts) that is grossly offensive, indecent, obscene, menacing, or false and causing annoyance/inconvenience/anxiety. Criminal offence – up to 6 months prison + fine Fraud Act 2006 (s.2 – Fraud by false representation) If the impersonation is used to make a gain (money, goods, favours) or cause someone a loss by pretending to be the other person. Up to 10 years prison
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1. I love that "proof" below. It's as specious as all of Clive "Jimmy" Carter's facts and arguments all over these pages. One can only have one name on WhatsApp at any given time. So either Peacock has two phone numbers and two accounts ("Cllr Sheila Peacock" and "Sheila Peacock") or the evidence is as bogus as her ostensibly deleting something as admin at the top but then asking how to delete something at the bottom. Also, a deleted message notification on WA doesn't look like that. There is a tilda before the administrator's name. It also says above that whose message was deleted and that person's phone number.
Amateurs. Your seething Leftist rage and hatred blind you to the obvious. When I was managing editor of my university paper there was a letter to the editor that was designed to trick us into publishing it as its content would have humiliated us. It was signed "Jonathan Swift" which I appreciated as a nice touch: At least the Marxist professors who tried to sucker my editor and I into publishing that letter back then still had decent educations because they learned from the Greatest Generation. I doubt that generation would have bothered to fight WWII if they knew what would then happen to their country at the hands of their descendants.
2. My advice: stay away from Arsebook and What'scrap. I'm glad we finally agree on something. Although I don't really see much difference between posting rubbish in those places versus on this site.
3. Personally I would be delighted to leave. It's not the Britain I came to know and love through literature and music growing up in my foreign city. But I want the millions I've paid in taxes back with interest to make it so people like the main posters here don't have to work and can sit around and make toxic this site (and presumably elsewhere) day in day out.
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