Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
A plea to drive slowly and safely on the ladder roads
Unfortunately the nature of the ladder lends itself to many of the roads being used as a high speed rat run for people cutting through to either Green Lanes or Wightman Road.
We live on Seymour which may be one of the quiter ones, but I still frequently here cars speeding past at all hours of the day and night.
I have two children and there are a lot of cats in the road too. Sadly, as of this weekend there is one less after our dear sweet Elvis (a black & white felix type cat that was a friend to everyone at the top end of the road) was hit and killed.
Please please please if you drive, do it at a reasonable speed. The bumps are there to advise caution. And frankly, if you don't you risk damage to your car and taking a very dearly beloved pet away from its family.
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Permalink Reply by Maddy on
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I think those flashing signs that remind cars what speed they are going are quite effective - even though they can be ignored they flag up to everyone that a particular car is exceeding the limit. In France on the motorways they even display the registration number of the offending vehicle.
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I also think at least the Grand Parade section of Green Lanes should be part of the 20mph zone - though I can't see speed bumps there because all the buses (though the 141 manages to go over speed bumps beyond Newington Green - not a particularly pleasant experience as a passenger).
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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The W3 has to do speed bumps down Ferme park Rd too. I think the speed problem on Green Lanes is from St Ann's up to Duckett's Common, the rest tends to be quite dense and slow moving traffic.
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A lot of the time it is, but whenever there's a clear patch cars speed up incredibly, while pedestrians take their lives in their hands to cross over to the shops.
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Are we keeping a count of how many pedestrians have been killed on Grand Parade in the last few years? Funny that the GLSG was set up as a response to one ethnic fight but nothing has been setup in response to the pedestrian fatalities...
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Permalink Reply by Old-Age-Emporium(OAE) on
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Two-three years I suggested that the Harringay 20mphZone should begin at the Harringay/Haringey-Hackney boundary, include Endymion, Wightman Road, Green Lanes, Turnpike Lane, and extend through Wood Green High Road to the Bounds Green Road junction. As logical as it is logistical, encouraging smooth safe traffic flow throughout the area, ignoring the convenient fiction that Green Lanes and Turnpike Lane are labelled A-roads. Glad I didn't hold my breath.
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I have a feeling I read somewhere that all of Islington is now 20mph. Does anyone know if that's correct?
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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Happened to notice this is the Standard just now - the article points up the same issue I falled elsewhere in this post re the Ladder limit - the police won't enforce it:
Islington becomes first entire 20mph zone but police won't enforce it
Islington council is set to agree the proposals but there are concerns about who will monitor motorists after the town hall and police failed to agree over enforcement.
The speed restriction zone will be imposed on all council-run main roads in a bid to drive down rising numbers of cyclist and pedestrian injuries.
Last year there were 245 bicycle accidents in Islington, 24 of which were serious and one of which was fatal. There were 193 motorcycle collisions, with one fatal and 24 serious.
The restriction is already in force on residential streets but will not include Transport for London-run arterial roads, such as the A1.
But there is confusion between Islington council and the Met about how the new zones will be policed.
Police told councillors that it was too expensive to spend their time on the policy and they would not crack down on motorists if residents complained.
The zones will in effect be self-policing, using 20mph road signs until the council and Met reach an agreement.
Paul Convery, Islington's executive member for transport, said the Labour-run council was sticking with the zone because of a "disproportionate number of collisions between bicycles and motorcycles and other traffic".
He said: "A pedestrian has a 90 per cent chance of surviving if hit by a car travelling at 20mph, in comparison with a 50 per cent chance of survival if hit by a car travelling at 30mph."
Mr Convery added: "The police say they don't support it because they don't want to enforce it. It's low priority for the police. They don't have much money and have to deal with crime and anti-social behaviour."
The Met told Islington council: "Based on your proposal, police would object...and the Association of Chief Police Officers' stance is that they would not be enforced by police if local residents complained following their installation." The 20mph zone was proposed by former Green Party councillor Katie Dawson.
A Met spokesman said: "These zones are designed to be "self enforcing" through measures such as speed humps, speed tables and chicanes."
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Permalink Reply by Lee Andrews on
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There's a little road around the corner from me called Linden Road that has a nice solution to traffic calming - no bumps shaking houses and the planters provide some shelter from cars and prevent larger lorries coming through. It also looks a lot better than crappy speed bumps with white triangles on them.
You can have a look here http://g.co/maps/b2gz2
I wonder of something similar could be done on the ladder/rungs/steps/whatever roads?
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Excuse my pedantry Lee but there doesn't seem enough room for pushchairs/wheelchairs to pass on both sides of the road - it looks lovely though
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The narrowest gap is between the trees and the garden fronts, which is narrower on this particular street due to its overall width, but I think OK for a wheelchair. Double buggy? Might be a bit tight. This would have been the same prior to its construction anyway.
This woman gives a bit of perspective (and that's no comment on her waistline) http://g.co/maps/q84qr
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Yes that was the first of the Home Zones. Now the Council is spending money on DIY Streets schemes. The first was behind Turnpike Lane Station. The second is planned for Hornsey. For some unknown reason the Council have a things about the Ladder roads and don't seem interested in tackling the traffic issue here.
I'd love for these schemes to be introduced on the Ladder.
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