Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
41 Umfreville Road
Just wondered if anyone knows what kind of work is going on at 41 Umfreville. There are two huge skips full of clay out front, which suggests someone is digging a basement.
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Permalink Reply by graemeTP on
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I knew the Chelsea examples would be mentioned. Let's not just assume that there is anything comparable happening at the aforementioned address, namely (pamish's link) - "digging down beneath their townhouses to make space for subterranea..." Unless Abramovich has snapped up a place on Umfreville? Further evidence of the borough's soaring status if so.
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Permalink Reply by pamish on
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Not just K+C - my friend's house in Stamford Hill is endangered by neighbours on both sides digging basements, neither has planning permission, she is at her wit's end trying to stop them. Enforcement in Hackney sounds even worse than in Haringey - or there are some dodgy goings on, perhaps not unconnected to the rows over the localism and neighbourhood forums.
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Permalink Reply by Maddy on
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You don't need planning permission, but you do need building regulations approval, which has been obtained for this property for "underpinning to create a new apartment". So no, not a swimming pool or cinema, but yet another way for landlords to squeeze more tenants into their houses. I think we can expect to see much more of this.
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Permalink Reply by Antoinette on
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Interestingly, I deliberately eaves-dropped on a conversation between a plumber and the labourers outside No. 41 on Friday.....They are definitely building a basement but were being very cagey about the final intended use for the newly dug-out space. I got the distinct impression it wasn't the first time they'd been grilled on the subject and had been told to keep schtum!!!
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Planning application to create a studio in the Ladder! Any views?
Hi, I thought that the idea behind not being able to convert houses into flats in the Ladder was to avoid overcrowding, more traffic problems, more wheelie bins in front gardens, etc
I have received a letter from Haringey Council asking for my views on the planning application submitted by the owners of 41 Umfreville Road to create a studio flat from their basement (to let out, I assume). The house already seems to have been converted into two, maybe three flats, so the studio would be a third or fourth flat from an ordinary 3 bed Victorian house... Why is the Council asking for my views? I thought there were rules in place which does not allow such conversions... Any thoughts please?
For those of you wanting to make your thought known to the Council on the matter, you can do so in the following link:
http://www.planningservices.haringey.gov.uk/portal/servlets/Applica...
You need to enter the HGY application reference number, which is 2013/2131
Cheers
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I'm afraid there is a serious down side to basement extensions which no one seems to have mentioned yet - loss of front gardens. Very often in these cases most of the front yard becomes a concrete-lined hole. Unlike a hard standing for car parking this is an irrevocable change with no hope of it ever again playing host to, flowers, hedges shrubs and trees. This has happened to quite a few houses to the west of Harringay especially in Stapleton Hall Road and continues despite the conservation area. An extension can even be built into the hole with the front garden becoming a roof at pavement level or even a bit higher. I think basements (which the Council seems to encourage) could become a far greater threat to small front gardens than car parking (which the Council strongly discourages if not prohibits) and will probably increasingly change the appearance of our streets in future (in my opinion for the worse).
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just a note on this place, I see a kitchen has now been fitted into the front room which suggests to me the place is being split into several small units (assuming it wasn't already)
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Permalink Reply by Stuart on
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Call Haringey's planning enforcement team now and get them to do a site visit asap. Sounds like it's time to start the ball rolling on another illegal conversion. Follow it up with an email so you've got something in writing.
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Planning application to create a studio in the Ladder! Any views?
Hi, I thought that the idea behind not being able to convert houses into flats in the Ladder was to avoid overcrowding, more traffic problems, more wheelie bins in front gardens, etc
I have received a letter from Haringey Council asking for my views on the planning application submitted by the owners of 41 Umfreville Road to create a studio flat from their basement (to let out, I assume). The house already seems to have been converted into two, maybe three flats, so the studio would be a third or fourth flat from an ordinary 3 bed Victorian house... Why is the Council asking for my views? I thought there were rules in place which does not allow such conversions... Any thoughts please?
For those of you wanting to make your thought known to the Council on the matter, you can do so in the following link:
http://www.planningservices.haringey.gov.uk/portal/servlets/Applica...
You need to enter the HGY application reference number, which is 2013/2131
Cheers
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