Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Campaign against Wightman Road closure
Spotted in a local shop window..
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Permalink Reply by JoeW on
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Eyespy - the road tube vendors claim 99% accuracy, and studies show error rate approaches zero over a whole day (due to errors in each direction cancelling each other out).
But even if the accuracy was ±10%, it would still be over 1000 HGVs per day.
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Permalink Reply by Andrew Stillman on
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you might do andy, but i suspect that there are those amongst us who would argue against one road closure whilst fiercely protecting others.
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Permalink Reply by andy h on
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Your right, I imagine those in the gardens/hermitage wouldn't want to see them opened again.
But as I've said ill advocate keeping mine open so others still get their bin lorries. -
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Permalink Reply by JulieB on
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On the consultant's documentation costs for WR package 4 are:
1a Wightman Road closed (filtered). Cost low-high
1b Improve cycle conditions. Cost low
1c Move pavement parking onto carriageway. Cost low
1d Mitigation measures across a wider area. Cost very high
Definitions of Costs:
Low Up to £100k
Medium £100k–£500k
High £500k–£1m
Very high >£1mSo I don't think this option will come within the £350K existing budget, I assume extra funds will need to be found.
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Andy, and Julie; right now the budget is £0. The bid for tfl money has only a 1 in 3 chance of approval. Haringey managed to find £700,000 to bring in the 20mph limit but haven"t stumped up a penny for this proposal.
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I'd still like to know what those LW measures would be though.
I read what was proposed on the traffic options but could only see that those would in turn blight other roads.
LW are quite within their rights to advocate to close the ladder, and have done so with gusto.
I'd think by now all those who are going to vote already have.
So I'd like to move on from the binary open/close to what LW propose for elsewhere.
(Remembering Brexit and no plan following the vote) it would be, I feel, responsible that their ideas for other areas get an airing. So we don't have to watch Wightman celebrate while the rest of us stand around and get locked out. -
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Julie - "Very high" refers to the long term variant. The short term variant could be achieved relatively quickly with much lower cost. The variants are described in the engagement docs from p32 here
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There isn't a short or long term variant listed for 1d, mitigating measures, the only cost in that section is listed as 'very high'.
The long and short term variants are for the closing/filtering of Wightman Road, cycle improvements and moving parking (1a, b and c). [sorry edit to say I'm wrong the only one with short-long variant listed is 1a. I'm reading pages 35&36 of the document you linked to]
So IMHO the mitigating measures would need to be funded, researched and implemented before anything else.
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Permalink Reply by Pat on
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I've been here over 15 years and in that time there have been no road closures that I can think of that has had a recent detrimental impact on the neighbourhood.
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pat, you must have arrived just after they closed hermitage road (which drove all the west/east traffic to the gardens), followed shortly by the closure of the gardens (which drove all the west to east traffic to the ladder). the hermitage closure had a very 'detrimental' effect on the gardens and the gardens closure had a very 'detrimental' effect on the ladder. so now you know, would you support undoing those 'detrimental' closures or is it only the wightman road closure you oppose?
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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I know the money for these measures has come up before but a new colleague at work is in charge of a group in London that look after an alleyway under a railway line... he just got a million pounds in lottery funding over ten years for it. He says that the great thing about spending money like that in the public realm is that the council always match fund. I'm just saying that if the desire is there, the money is too.
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Permalink Reply by Karen Alexander on
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Thats right John but that also needs political will. Haringey Council and our ward councillors have so far shown very little of that - very disapponting.
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