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Spotted Flytipping

EDITED BASED ON INFORMATION BELOW - above are some lovely people dumping their stuff on fairfax road. 

Thanks to everyone for their advice and comments.

Tags for Forum Posts: #councilservices, #flytipping

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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on October 27, 2016 at 9:15
A good portion of the blame is down to us I'm afraid. Those blokes who knock on your door or stick a leaflet through your letterbox promising to get rid of your rubbish for £50 just take your money, load up the crap and then dump it around the corner.
Permalink Reply by Dan on October 27, 2016 at 8:49

Thanks Hugh. Strangely we couldnt find the number yesterday. Hence the 'raar'. 

Permalink Reply by Gordon T on October 27, 2016 at 7:53

That's the first option on the 'Fly Tipping & Dumped Rubbish' page - there are two others:

 + Or, you can use the Our Haringey app to report this via your mobile phone while out and about

 + Alternatively please contact the Veolia Haringey Contact Centre:
       Tel: 020 8885 7700
       Email: enquiries.haringey@veolia.com

I've  used the email address to report fly tipping recently and it was acted on.

Permalink Reply by Dan on October 27, 2016 at 8:50

Thanks Gordon. I have no idea how we missed this. 

Permalink Reply by Gordon T on October 27, 2016 at 9:19

Well I missed it too, the first time I accessed the page after it had been changed.

'Report it online through My Account' in BIG LETTERS on a red bar background - your eye is meant to stop there since that's the council's preferred route...  The other options are not as emphatic!

Permalink Reply by Hugh on October 27, 2016 at 10:20

Of course you can always use our One Button Council links - see the brightly coloured buttons in the column to the right of this comment.

Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on October 27, 2016 at 11:27

The "Third System" works pretty well for fly-tippers.
Dump bags on the street, or a bit of land in a convenient corner, and these are reported by someone-or-other. 
Brilliant service.
"The council is working in partnership with Veolia to clear smaller dumped or fly-tipped items within 6 hours of the reports being received by the Contact Centre."
(Source: para 3 of  Haringey's "Fly Tipping and Dumped Rubbish", page as in the link given by other people in this thread.)
There's an App. There's always an App. I think of it as "Click and Clear". 

Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on October 27, 2016 at 15:24

I've now seen the £400 fine "fanfare". It's in an email from Cllr Lorna Reith one of my ward councillors. I've attached the file. The heading is "Operation Stecora". I've no idea what that word means. Italian? (My Google search suggested: "bridal makeover".)

Perhaps more interesting it describes some fly-tipping on a Council Estate where Haringey's "CCTV & Surveillance Project Co-Ordinator" installed CCTV in the area. In June three settees were dumped from a vehicle. The information was passed to "Tactical Enforcement Officers" who issued the 400 quid fine which was paid in October.
Ta-ran-ta-ra!

So please don't assume that Haringey is doing nothing about this problem. But don't get too excited either.
"This is the first £400 fixed penalty notice that has been issued for fly-tipping in the borough since the new legislation came into effect this year".

A few years back wasn't the maximum fine £2,500?

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Permalink Reply by Gordon T on October 27, 2016 at 18:44

Harringay Passage has doomy notices claiming a max £50,000 fine (through the courts admittedly). That's an awful lot of pooper-scooper bags.

Permalink Reply by Harringay SNT on October 27, 2016 at 18:44

The registered keeper and insured details have been passed to the Neighbourhood Action Team. If the witness could get in touch with them that would be great. The keeper is a Haringey resident

Permalink Reply by matt on November 1, 2016 at 17:24
Would you Adam & Eve it! The culprits are an elderly couple living here in the borough. She was the getaway driver, he did the dumping. Needless to say a £400 fine is coming their way.
Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on December 3, 2016 at 13:54

I wonder if anyone asked them why?!! For example, was it really too hard to drive to the Reuse & recycling site?
In my view the issue is about the why and why not. What Liz Ixer called - I think I've remembered this accurately - the ethnography of rubbish dumping. Not simply about fines and threats, because the reality is that the number of people who'll be spotted and fined is likely to be miniscule compared with the incidents of dumping and littering.

I understand that many people may disagree, and want to see more fines and even court appearances by the culprits. In which case, I hear rumours of really bad news with cuts to the Neighbourhood Action Teams which are supposed to be the "frontline" tackling such problems. (The Council refers to NATS). Any insiders like to comment?

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