Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Green Lanes to get £30 million Mini-Holland treatment from TfL
There is a lovely write up here.
"Andrew Gilligan, Boris Johnson’s cycling commissioner, says that TfL and the local authority are trying to build consensus in Enfield, but that a small group of people are determined to oppose the scheme whatever."
It also demonstrates the problem with calling Harringay "Green Lanes", as this is the northern part of Green Lanes up in Enfield.
Tags for Forum Posts: cycling, enfield, green lanes, mini holland, traffic
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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It's interesting that the same old canard gets rolled out time after time, that loss of car space means loss of retail income. The studies cited toward of the end of the article show pretty clearly that although car drivers spend more per visit, all other customer spend more overall because they visit more frequently. And as for "You'll have to cross a cycle lane to get a bus" how do these people cross the road at the moment to get to the bus stop, levitation?
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Permalink Reply by StephenBln on
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There seems to be a widespread warped way of thinking. Sustained by certain media outlets. I find it very sad.
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Permalink Reply by AndrewAW1 on
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Sounds very similar to our stretch of Green Lanes. Customers are simply unable to get to the shops or restaurants round here by tube, three different buses (plus another ten or so within ten minutes walk), two different train lines, walking, cycling, etc
My favourite quote from one of the opponents:
“The high streets are reliant on women for business. ... Most women don’t cycle – either they don’t want to or they are too busy.”
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They missed out the reason that I don't cycle which I would imagine applies to women too - it's too scary in the traffic on Green Lanes.
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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Green Lanes is fine (heading south in the bus lane anyway), try Wightman Rd!
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Agreed, Wightman is terrible due to the "traffic calming". If you don't belt along at 20mph+ (which can be a bit of an effort) then you'll end up with cars trying to squeeze past you at pinch points (of which they have built plenty).
South on Green Lanes isn't too bad during rush hour, it's worse at the weekends as the bus lane is full of parked cars. Heading North is OK if you don't rush, if you start trying to squeeze down the sides of buses then it gets hairy. The main risk is (again) due to all the parked cars with people opening doors without looking, people crossing between parked cars and cars pulling out of the side roads. Having a decent primary position (being in the middle of the lane rather than on the left) and overtaking on the right rather than the left can help to alleviate these problems.
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