Is Harringay Green Lanes station on the Mayors £1.3tn London orbital railway wishlist?

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Permalink Reply by HarringayBirder on July 30, 2014 at 20:23

Looks like it. But the real story is highly depressing:

"Predicting that London's geography would shift to the east as the population passes 11 million..."

 Talking of new transport links for Harringay, you've presumably seen this?

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Permalink Reply by markb on July 31, 2014 at 8:21

What's depressing about London growing, or that East London is on the up?

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Permalink Reply by markb on July 31, 2014 at 8:32

Doubt it - this orbital looks like an intensification of the existing tracks that go through Harringay Green Lanes. Harringay and Ally Pally are already linked via the existing north-south line with high-frequency lines. 

Perhaps Harringay & Harringay Green lanes will be joined up more, by moving Harringay Green lanes platforms a little to the west (between Wightman and Oakfield rd )

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Permalink Reply by HarringayBirder on July 31, 2014 at 14:36

Because - for starters - London's already very crowded and congested; and more people leads to more demand for housing which puts more upwards pressure on house sale and rental prices and also leads to people looking more and more to build on brownfield and even green belt land...

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Permalink Reply by michaelw on August 1, 2014 at 22:35

Note that the actual 2050 infrastructure proposals are on-line, on this page, including a specific transport document

The transport document includes an outline map of the rail line on page 90 (and it does look to be the GOBLIN line, maybe with a new/extended station at Harringay to link with the East Coast main line).

But - also very relevant to the area - it also talks on page 79 about an upgraded orbital ring road, between the inner ring road (where tunnels are proposed) and the North Circular, specifically:

we envisage a programme of enhancements – including flyunders and mini-tunnels – to tackle the worst of the congestion on the network...
This could include locations such as A2 Old Kent Road, A40 Acton, A503 Woodberry Down.

This idea was first floated a few months ago (see this post) - but it seems to be becoming more detailed and specific. 

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Permalink Reply by michaelw on August 1, 2014 at 22:44

Just noticed that the Greens are now starting to push back against the massive road building plans:

Green party politicians on the London Assembly said they would be unwilling to support the building of new roads and bridges and accused the Mayor of “pushing for the kind of road-building projects which belong back in the car-dominated 1960s.”

Assembly Member Darren Johnson said: “The Mayor is completely deluded if he thinks he will be able to create consensus around the hugely polluting, disruptive and expensive road-building schemes he is proposing.”

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Permalink Reply by michaelw on August 1, 2014 at 23:15

Indeed.... on the trains side, someone has created a possible map for the new overground route: http://www.citymetric.com/politics/what-would-londons-new-orbital-r...

However, if you wanted an actual interchange with North/South trains (including Thameslink post-2018) then you would want a new 'Harringay' station where the overground crosses the East Coast line. Otherwise there would be a long walk from Harringay Green Lanes...

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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on August 2, 2014 at 5:40

Last week I had to travel from Harringay Green Lanes to Finchley Road and Frognal for work on two mornings and it was completely jam packed. Even before the predicted population growth the need for improved east/west travel is already with us.

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