After it was discovered at the St Ann's Labour Party selection candidate selection meeting that there were people present and voting who should not have been, I came home from the pub (where I'd heard about it) and wrote this article. It has subsequently been edited by site admins to remove the names of people who were embarrassed or in the final case where a journalist said it was potentially libellous. Well here I will attempt to summarise what we have subsequently found out and hopefully take people's attention away from my original appalling rant.
*An individual has asked that their name be replaced with their function in this post on the grounds that they are not seeking public office. This has been done.
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Honestly, after this mess of his making do you really think he will do the decent thing? Under the present set up he knows he doesn't have to and neither do the next one hundred people after him until things change.
OK then, come on Cllr Kober, instruct him to do the decent thing, for the sake of the credibility of the party. This is not going to wither away. He can always come back in later at a by-election.
Retrospectively correcting their addresses? And presumably they'd have to retrospectively correct their Electoral Registration as well? So instead of "Prospective candidates" are we now to have "retrospective candidates"?
I haven't heard any of this, John. And as far as I know, neither has my partner Zena Brabazon. (She's a J.P. and is sitting in court today, so maybe something has arrived in her inbox?)
Anyway it all sounds quite weird. Maybe someone's idea of a joke? Or perhaps these Labour Party apparatchiks are too young to have seen "All the Presidents Men". And not learned the central lesson: that it was the cover-up, not the break-in, which brought down Nixon.
(Tottenham Hale ward councillor)
(P.S. Any "Deep Throats" around who'd like to help out with the truth? Or a Raskolnikov who feels guilty? We've got seven months for this to play out.)
Ali Gul Ozbek had previously been told by Nilgun Canver that he was not allowed to register people from business addresses and yet this is exactly what has happened. He knew full well that what he was doing was wrong. Not only do these people not live where they say they live, the addresses they gave the Labour Party are business addresses.
According to tweets I received from another Labour councillor, the person running the meeting should have gone through the list beforehand and excluded people from business addresses. This was done in his ward and two members were excluded. The person who should have done this but didn't was John Blake, the secretary of the St Ann's Labour party.
Sitting downstairs at that meeting were Claire Kober and Joe Goldberg who of course have plausible deniability that they had not seen the membership list.
As I've dug into this I've become more depressed and scared at the level of corruption (there is no other word for it) and the number of people probably involved. Now that the NEC have upheld the selection we are left with no option but to run three anti-corruption candidates in St Ann's and ask the other parties not to run. Agreed?
yes.
shameful and short-sighted Labour Party.
Joe Goldberg has pointed out to me that he and Claire were sitting downstairs because it was the Seven Sisters "selection" meeting down there. I stand corrected. Of course I should have mentioned that originally buy funnily enough, I get all this from conversations I overhear in the Salisbury so I'm not perfect.
I learned a new word today: foot-shootery. Which, if it's not immediately obvious, means shooting yourself in the foot,
"This is the most amazing bit of Labour Party foot-shootery I've seen for years", said a friend who called me after reading John McMullan's latest posting.
Anti-corruption candidates? Surely, John, All Labour Party candidates should automatically be anti-corruption; as well as pro-transparency, honesty, and accountability. And of of course, totally in agreement with Ed Miliband's call for everyone "to speak up for decency in British politics".
So perhaps we could simply invite each Labour candidate - prospective or retrospective - to sign a statement speaking out for decency in Haringey politics and insisting on rerunning selection meetings which have no credibility. Each candidate could have a hygiene rating with a logo to put on their leaflets. Like Scores on the Doors for hygiene in shops, pubs, clubs, take-aways and restaurants.
I'm sure that they would consider it and I'm awaiting a response from the Tories and Lib Dems. I mean any three willing and independent candidates (Labour Party members cannot stand against one another). I may have one and I'm looking for others. Hopefully they'll be high profile enough to put the chills up the Labour Party and they just relent and rerun their blimmin selection rather than having to go through all of this.
I'm not sure of the numbers from the last election
See here for the 2010 results, here for 2006, and here for 2002.
I don't see how this can't be putting of people from voting Labour in wards outside of St Anns. In Harringay last election Gina won by 2159 votes over the next highest Lib Dim who didn't get in with 1800 - a 359 vote difference. So if just 180 people are put off voting Labour because of all this fuss she could lose her seat this time. I'd be worried if i was her.
The turnout will be half that, there is no general election. Check out 2006. I reckon it will be closer than that, 90.
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