Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Green Lanes the second most polluted street on Haringey
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Permalink Reply by Ruth on
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Councillor Nilgun 'our award winning scheme' Canver says in this article about all they are doing to improve things. It's hard to see much difference down here in Green Lanes (should we rename it Ungreen Lanes?)
Just walked round to Sainsburys and the traffic gridlocked, again, with a real jam all ways. I know the current road works have added to this but where is the change management round there? we often have that logjam discussed on HoL. The poor W5 passengers were'nt going anywhere fast and I saw a couple of cyclists nearly knocked off their bikes due to fed up drivers trying to reverse out... I see and feel the increased pollution round here in my flat. The 'dust' when I get round to dusting, is black. We are breathing in this lovely stuff! Those with kids should send them out with gasmasks on.
Never mind the dangers of passive smoking- we are passively being force-fed exhaust fumes.
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Permalink Reply by Protheroe O'Shea on
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I wonder how it effect the fruit and veg on sale in the local shops?
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I have often thought that and to be honest it's beginning to put me off buying stuff at these roadside places now. I wash everything but would that get rid of any toxins? Hmmm.. any scientists out there?
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not great but a bit scientific
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Thanks, interesting. I know there are dangers to everything we buy/grow/eat but leafy things from roadside seem particularly bad. The shop I use keeps most of the leafy stuff inside the shop, which sounds a good idea. But there's all the other stuff... This is another thread of discussion that indicates how little we know about the true health costs of exhaust pollution!
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This link is worth reading but it singles out air pollution as the main cause of lung cancer, not smoking.
http://handymanphil.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/here-come-little-kumars....
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Permalink Reply by Clive Carter on
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Ruth I'm not sure this link was worth reading. The motivation of the author is suspect: "Smoking bans kill businesses – Fact!"
... and the object seems to take the pressure of smoking as the leading cause of lung cancer.
It has never struck me as a healthy idea to inhale air that is laden with poisons and particulates, whatever the source.
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Clive, re: the 'suspect' link- the smoking ban has killed many pub and clubs businesses. Whatever our views are about smoking and the smoking ban (I am a non-smoker), it has contributed to boarded up sites that used to be lively places of social interaction. I've done a lot of research on clubs and that has touched upon pubs. But that's not the point I want to make here. What gets me is the hypocrisy around the fervour to stamp out smoking and smokers, reducing them to such lowest of the low status, whilst not much being done about air pollution caused by cars, planes etc. We just have to accept that as a fact of life (and death.) As for the ads about kids passively smoking in cars ... it isnt good no way but we regularly subject them to such misery with traffic pollution. No wonder ashma rates are going up. I see the diversion onto smoking/smokers as a smokescreen (pardon the pun) that helps to disguise the problems of our car-dependent society.
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I was disappointed that Dyson's proposals to reduce truck and bus pollution were rejected as impractical.
The vacuum cleaner manufacturer – who pioneered centrifugal collection of tiny particulates – suggested this be built into the exhaust system of diesel vehicles.
Apparently, such devices would need cleaning out too often. Better that people breathe it into their lungs.
I don't think the authorities tried hard enough.
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I agree. The technology is there but they don't go to that extra length to find ways of adopting it. Tax cuts for fracking technology though! hey ho..
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Don't agree about the 'resounding success' of the smoking ban but let's not digress... the issue is here the pollution for sure.
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Permalink Reply by Christopher Fowler on
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Never mind all the talk about cutting air pollution, important though that is. What about cutting alcohol abuse? It's time for minimum alcohol pricing, restrictions on the sale of alcohol, and a national campaign to stop people drinking. No more alcohol advertising should be the way. The damage to people's health from alcohol is enormous. Also, let's have some proper labelling of food in shops, and restrictions on the fat, salt and sugar-laden stuff on sale in take-away places on Green Lanes, before we're overwhelmed by a tidal wave of obesity. Of course, none of this will happen, because just as politicians are in the pocket of the oil industry (thus, no control on motor cars), they are being bought off by the alcohol and food processing industries.
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