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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Change of use from steel yard (at the Railway Approach on Hampden Rd) to residential and construction of a new building to create 80 new private and affordable apartments and two commercial units.

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It will be a very busy part of Harringay what with the railway yard, the mosque and this proposed 80 apartment development.

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This is typical of the over-development that Haringey Council permits in the poorer parts of the borough,  but which they would never get away with, or even try to get away with, in the wealthier parts. They are happy to over-develop and strain local services in parts of the borough where they have a safe ruling party (Labour) majority. They are far more cautious when dealing with areas which currently have, or have had, Liberal Democrat councillors. They don't care about what happens to those of us in poorer areas (primarily the east of the borough), as they reckon we will all vote Labour anyway (as most of us probably feel the LibDems would be even worse); but they treat those in the wealthier bits of the borough with much more care, as they are trying to take those council seats from the LibDems, in order to cement further their hold on power. This borough is effectively a Stalinist, one-party dictatorship, with an inner cabal of Labour councillors running everything. As a (not very active) member of the Tottenham Labour Party, it is a matter of great concern to me that a Labour council acts in this way.

You're spreading mis-information here. The Harringay ward, where this development is located is represented by two Lib-Dem councillors, so not exactly safe Labour.

As someone who lived in the far west of the borough for several years before "crossing the tracks", I can assure you in many aspects, the council doesn't give a hoot about those residents either. The council's ineptitude is borough wide.

You are probably right in this, Nicholas. However, the richer parts of the borough has citizens who are professionals, including lawyers and journalists, and are much better able to defend themselves. The Council regards those of us "on the wrong side of the tracks" as inferior in this regard, and thus imagine they can get away with imposing anything on us. How wrong they are has been proven by the vigorous opposition to the infamous Wards Corner development plans.

Quite. We've already got a development here at Tottenham Hale that has gone above and beyond what was originally detailed; all without sufficient facilities to support the extra new residents, and the big "landmark" tower is yet to be built.

Is it the appeal of all the extra council tax that causes blindness to the problems? Or something else? It can't be the section 106 settlements because (here) they failed to collect it all from the developer, and now I understand that's scrapped anyway.

When New River was built the developers where supposed to spend money on improving the station.  It never happened so I wouldn't expect a new development to improve the station approach from our side and with an extended mosque, 2 very busy churches and a new building on the top end of Hampden Road an additional 80 unit development could just make the traffic and road rage so bad that someone will get killed. Even now many drivers don't even bother stopping at the crossing between Hampden Road and Wightman Road.

With all this projected traffic mayhem, concocted road rage, predicted pedestrian poleaxing, imagined massacre of the innocent and ignorant of Wightman Road, aren't we damn lucky to have an extended mosque and 2 very busy churches to cope with the fallout and cater for all the funerals?  We could do with the old synagogue there on the corner and a gurdwara or two, and of course a state-of-the-art crematorium, and where can the coffinmaker set up his place?

But what's really missing from this discussion is that anti-Parking Warrior-cum-Botherer of Godbotherers, Ashley Samways. Now who ever thought we could have this rich discussion in her absence?

But wait, folks!  How did we ever manage when we had Dylan Thomas House with 133 flats, Hallam House with at least 50, more old terrace houses than the present Denmark Road, a Synagogue as busy as any Mosque, 2 even busier Churches - and worse public transport than we have today? Anyone know where the worst massacres happened? Anyone know where the bodies are buried? 

Perhaps back then not everyone wanted to own, park, and drive so many cars around?

(We walked from Crouch End to Green Lanes last Sunday. Wightman road would lovely if it wasn't for all the parked cars and through-traffic)

And just a little north along the line this monster is currently rising...

View along Malvern Road towards Hornsey Park Road.

Wow I have no idea that this was so visible from your road.  I saw it from the railway line when I got on the wrong train and shot past Hornsey. Now I know why concrete lorry after concrete lorry drives up the top end of Hampden Road.  An then they want to develop between Hornsey Park and the railway.

That's from the first floor Charlotte but it's still visible above the Hornsey Park Road houses from street level. Let's hope this is a high as it's going to get...

I'm sorry to be ill-informed, but what is this monstrosity? And where is it actually located? 

As Alison P says, it's behind Mary Neuman Rd, I think it's a "Train Wash" which will operate at night but I'm not entirely sure. God help those in the New River Village...

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