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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Change of use from steel yard (at the Railway Approach on Hampden Rd) to residential and construction of a new building to create 80 new private and affordable apartments and two commercial units.

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Comments accepted until June.

It will be a very busy part of Harringay what with the railway yard, the mosque and this proposed 80 apartment development.

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These are sprouting everywhere with Haringey being under pressure to build more housing. What else can they do but pick on 'derelict' sites and give authorisation to cram in as many flats as possible? All it needs is compliance with regulations, which repeated consultations with the local area will eventually crack.

It's happening here.
It's happening in the 'Haringey Heartlands' with over 1,100 new homes on their way.
It's happening opposite my home as I type – the view from my desk at present is about 50% sky, once they're done it'll be about 20% with new neighbours being able to see straight into my bedroom (unless I stick some opaque film on the window). Opposed it for years, no point.

Can't believe that new residents are DENIED CPZs though, this is absolute madness!!

This is common practice now, to make the development appear more envrionmentally friendly. My friend had the same in Stoke Newington - she somehow wangled it to park her car elsewhere. If you think about it, where would all those extra cars park if they did have permits?

I though that a traffic impact assessment had to be carried out before any development can be approved (look at the TK MAXX/ Post Office change of use application previously). Any experts in planning out there?

A possible solution would be underground parking....

I also think New River residents were denied CPZs but I might be wrong.

I believe that all new developments of this size are not allowed to have any parking. I think its a london wide thing. Something to do with ticking the environmentally sustainable boxes on transport.

Pesonally I rather like the steel yard, But i dont have to live next to it. 

If my memory serves me correct, 60 odd parking spaces were originally proposed during initial discussions with the council, however they requested that the development be built without provision for parking for the majority of residents (disabled only). 

If a development of this size goes ahead, am I the only one pleased they won't have access to the CPZ, provided of course the council maintains this stance indefinitely? I'm sure nearby Ladder residents would be thankful. And why would you move there if you required a car space/permit?

I, living nearby, prefer they don't have access to the CPZ. But that is completely selfish and, if I am honest, very unfair.

Just imagine you bought a flat and only then realised you had no space to park it nearby. 

I think that removing the parking spaces on the basis that this will put less cars in the road is evil. It's as if the council now decided that no cars can circulate through green lanes, that it's going to be cycle and bus only. Those cars won't disappear by art of magic, they will need to go through other routes causing bigger congestion on other roads.

Is it just my taste, or is that the ugliest building this side of North Korea?

No, I share your taste. All the charm of the 60s brutalist Home Office (?) building on Horseferry Road.

The young North Korean leader would probably turn down this design, it's so ugly. The person who inserted a clothing shop into the 'commercial units' clearly had no idea what location he was dealing with! If it's built next to that noisy railway, without garaging & only 1/2 bedroom apartments I think we'll see high turnover of residents. Probably fill up with overseas students renting from property investors. Quick journey via rail for UCL, SOAS and the like.

I agree that a high turnover of residents is more than likely and so the proposal won't further the cause of Haringey's "lifetime homes" policy. The ladder area, of course, already has this problem, one that designation as a restricted conversion area is supposed to combat. The steel yard falls just outside so it looks like the planned development will just make the problem area bigger.

According to the drawings the client is LR Stewart & Sons Ltd or Stewart Property Partners, a step up from steel supply into property development. This development doesn't include the two buildings behind (which will probably end up coming down for housing as well) so it's an incredibly small site for 80 apartments.

Love to know who filled out this score card, an assessment designed by CABE & Home Builders Federation.

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