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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

 

Following the 
last tree removal programme in the Ladder in 2008, Haringey Council have issued information about a new tree cull programme. 46 trees in total are due for the chop. Last time round Hewitt Road lost one of its two remaining cherry trees. This time they're back for the very last. Other roads will share similar fates.

Apparently the trees are either dead, diseased or have "outgrown their locations". But, worryingly, this time there's currently no statement about whether replacements will be planted. I'm awaiting a return of call from the officer responsible with an update on the situation.

Sadly, even when we get replacemeents, they tend to be more ornamental style trees. Here's what the 
Trees for Cities organisation has to say about that practice:


As the population of London continues to rise, space for people and trees is becoming increasingly difficult to find. Tree planting trends in recent years have shifted to smaller, shorter lived ornamental species. Whilst these trees still play a vital role in improving the city's environment, they are unable to provide the maximum benefits in climate regulation, air filtration and habitat that larger canopy trees provide. In addition the benefits of tree planting are at their highest when the trees reach maturity and so the longer a tree lives the more it has to contribute.


Below are the trees we're about to lose: 






Allison Road


  • Outside 34

Beresford Road


  • Between 78/80

  • Near 1

  • Outside 131


Burgoyne Road


  • Between 23/25

Cavendish Road


  • Outside 61


  • Outside 62

  • Between 32/34

  • Between 53/55

  • Between 82/84

Coningsby Road


  • Near 7

Duckett Road


  • O/S 42

Effingham Road


  • Outside 7

  • Between 69/71

Falkland Road


  • Outside 58

  • Between 77/79

  • Outside 74

  • Between 108/110

  • Between 100/102

Frobisher Road


  • Opposite 37

  • Side of the Greek church

  • Opposite 84

  • Outside 52

  • Between 86/88

Green Lanes


  • Outside 391

Hampden Road


  • Outside 5


  • Outside the church


  • nr the social services building
Hewitt Road


  • Outside 74
Lausanne Road


  • O/S 65


Lothair Road North



  • Outside 77


  • O/S 103


  • Opposite 99


Mattison Road





  • O/S 42




Pemberton Road



  • Outside 34


Raleigh Road



  • Outside 3


Seymour Road

  • Outside 52
  • Outside 10


Sydney Road



  • Outside 64

  • O/S 38


Tancred Road



  • Side of 34 Endymion Road


Warham road



  • BT 27/29


Woollaston Road



  • Between 3/5



Wightman Road



  • Outside 258


  • Outside 293


  • Outside 140

All enquiries to:

Clare Pappalardo, Senior Arboricultural & Allotments Officer, London Borough of Haringey, 020 8489 5774, 
clare.pappalardo@haringey.gov.uk



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They should cut down the tree outside 42 Beresford Road and 81 Beresford Road both of those trees are a damn nuisance.

In what way Anna?

It would be very interesting to know the reason for the removal of the trees e.g. fear of subsidence, danger of the trees falling, oversized etc.  Also, does anyone know how much does it cost to plant a new one?  Funding may be a problem but maybe the council would go 50/50 with residents?  There are a lot of people/houses on our roads so a collection might generate some money even if only 50% donated a few quid.  Most homeowners would prefer to live on a tree lined road, even if they are not bothered about the trees they will know it is good for their house prices.

Reasons are here dane. See the attached document for each tree in each road.

Also, does anyone know how much does it cost to plant a new one?

I'd emailed Clare asking this and she replied £250 and pointed me to the council website - here

You can also get benches though they're quite expensive, would be nice to have some benches at some of the more spacious entrances of the Passage.

   ...ant

 

Thank you.  I guess it is an option then to have a street collection if the council will plant a tree but can't without private funding.

How about contacting the Tree Trust for Haringey? Please click link here.

They may be able to help. For example by suggesting a Charity which might, say, match funds collected locally. And perhaps - I'm guessing - by providing a facility for funds to be collected e.g. a charity account that's already set up? They can certainly advise and have a successful track record.

Response from Council now posted here.

I have only recently discovered the proposed felling of a Cherry tree outside 77 Lothair Road North. To be frank I am absolutely horrified, this is the last mature tree in the street. The reason given for the removal is a fungal disease, this seem tenuous to me as there appears to be very  little evidence for this. I agree this would not happen in the west of the borough where the trees are well looked after to avoid "problems" of this kind. I would be interested to find out how many trees have been removed from Stroud Green, Crouch End, Highgate and Muswell Hill in recent years. The trees need to  be managed in this area as they are to the west. if any one else is interested in petitioning please post below.

Hi Tara - I've met the people who work for the Council dealing with the trees and they're dedicated people who seem to care a lot - I've seen them in action; I'm a Tree Warden myself. They really don't discriminate between bits of Haringey as far as I can tell - all they seem to care about is growing as many trees as possible. They only remove trees that really need removing and plant more than they remove. They are human and thus capable of mistakes, so it's obviously worth double-checking that the disease is affecting your Cherry Tree.

There are a lot of people who scrutinise their work - ordinary residents across the Borough, the Tree Trust, the Tree Council, Londoners Love Trees, their own management, etc  and it's hard to find fault - they generally know exactly what they're doing in my experience and will save any tree if they possibly can, no matter where it is. They also do 'out of hours' (i.e. unpaid) work off their own bat as it's that sort of job.

There seems to be plenty of money available for residents to plant trees, so it's not a question of cutting them down to save money - I'm pretty certain they don't do that as, once a tree is three years old, it should generally not cost Haringey anything further as it keeps itself alive whereas it can cost quite a lot to remove one.

Hope that helps.

An update from Clare at Haringey Trees:

I have carried out another survey of all the trees specified for removal and can confirm that seven more will be retained and their future health closely monitored. They are at the following locations. Burgoyne Road: BT 23/25, Lothair Road North: OPP 99 & OS 103, Effingham Road: BT 69/71, Falkland Road: OS 74,  Pemberton Road: O/S 34, Mattison Road : O/S 42.  

However, since the initial survey was completed, two more trees have died and now require removal. Their locations are Falkland Road: OS 33 & 96

Please note that Haringey Tree Wardens now have a Facebook page and a website and you can follow us on Twitter!

Part of our work is to help the Haringey Tree Officers do their duty in protecting trees. The Council maintain a list of all trees that are 'protected' but what would really help would be if everyone knew they had protected trees in their area and kept an eye open for them.

So, please 'friend' us on Facebook and get free training if you need it to be able to recognise a tree (I am surprised by how much there is to learn - I know nothing!) and confirm that the trees that deserve protection are protected and not in danger. It could take as little as five minutes a year of your time to keep track of your local trees - after all, you often pass them by.

We held a tree walk recently in Crouch End - walking around the local streets with a Tree Officer (some of us with secateurs and tree saws), learning and doing some typical Tree Warden gentle maintenance.  Thanks to Janice for taking the photos, the rest of which are here.

The next event is coming up soon and they are becoming more regular. We aim to hold them in different parts of the borough so there will be one near you soon  - please join us on Facebook and/or follow us on Twitter to be kept informed, or contact me if you don't like those services.

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