Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Ending of Haringey Daily Visitor Permits to increase daily visitor parking charge by 164%
A parking review consultation run quietly at the start of the year seems to have been so little publicised that it attracted just 42 responses (augmented with another 58 garnered by phone).
The change it included that residents may feel most keenly is the abolition of daily visitor permits.
Currently Haringey's website gives the following prices for visitor permits:
Standard daily visitor permits are £5 and hourly are £1.20.
The "Parking Strategy and Policy/Charges Review, Appendix D: Updated parking permit policy / charges" shares the expectation that residents will henceforth be expected to make up a day's parking permit with hourly permits. For the Ladder where the CPZ runs from 08:00 to 18:30, this will require eleven hourly permits to make up a full day. If the hourly charge remains at £1.20, this will mean a total daily cost of £13.20, an increase of a mere 164%. The cutting below is extracted from that Appendix.
It's not clear to me why hourly permits should be less open to abuse than daily ones, but I'm all ears. If the primary motivation for this change was indeed to counter permit abuse, one would have thought it a fairly easy matter to protect residents from the affects of standing up to the abuse by simply putting a cap on daily charges like London Transport do. As far as I can make out, this hasn't happened.
At section 4.1 of the background papers (attached below), the Council has gone to the trouble of benchmarking the cost of daily business visitor permits. That's helpful. They looked at Camden, Islington, Ealing, Greenwich and Waltham Forest.
For some reason, no benchmarking was done on the cost of daily resident visitor parking costs. I've done my best to fill that gap. I've used the same boroughs and added Hackney since that was a missing neighbouring borough.
The current cost for a visitor to park in CPZ of those six boroughs for a day are as follows.
Camden: £8.79
Islington: £7.20 - £8.00 (on my calculationat £0.90 and £1.00 per hour)) discounted to £2.80 for 60+
Greenwich: Tradesmen £18.50 per week, and £9 per 10 vouchers (no information on time period validity)
Waltham Forest: £8.00 (at £1.00 per hour)
Hackney: £5.30.......................
...................vs Haringey: £13.20
....unless of course I'm misunderstanding Haringey's policy - only too happy to be set straight.
As part of the review, an Equality Impact Assessment (EIA) was run. As a part of that assessment, equality as it relates to socio-economic status was considered. In the case of the daily parking permits, the situation roughly divides the east of the borough, with all its indicators of deprivation, from the much wealthier west. In the west, two-hour CPZ predominate: in the east >8 hour zones are the rule. The shift from daily to hourly permits will barely affect the west of the borough, whereas it will have a significant impact on the east. The only outcomes noted under the socio-economic section of the EIA are "Positive", "Positive" and ... er ... "Positive". The unequal nature of the daily parking charge was not even considered. So the EIA as it relates to socio-economic status is badly flawed.
The change was part of a wider Parking strategy review that was passed by the Council last week. The recommendations of the review were adopted without dissent (see minute 48:30 of meeting on YouTube).
This change is unlikely to affect me personally but I fear that it may have an impact on some who are not is a strong position to absorb the increased charges.
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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If anyone wants to read about the recent Haringey driver advised by Mr Mustard, it was on 10 September 2024 and headed:
Persistence pays - all councils, not just Haringey
~~~~~~~More links to Mr Mustard online:
Mr Mustard (mrmustard@zoho.com)
This morning I also spent an informative and entertaining twenty minutes or so reading some of his old posts on Twitter (when that site was still alive.)
https://x.com/_mrmustardOne feature of Derek's posts is that he's ready to acknowledge when some borough's Parking Service delivers a policy or takes a decision which is fair, balanced and respectful of how ordinary residents actually want to live their lives. When that happens Mr Mustard may step forward and invite them: "to take a bow.
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Permalink Reply by Paul Soper on
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Still a little perplexed - having gone through CPZ consultations from the first Crouch End scheme in only 2 roads (because Islington has introduced one on Mountview Road) through to the implementation of Crouch End A & B and then having to get Hornsey Vale added to Stroud Green because of the insanity of being the last bit south of Tottenham Lane to have a CPZ the Statutory Consultation was the stage AFTER the initial consultation process where the final scheme as agreed was put out to statutory consultation to make sure that there were no legal problems with the implementation. It would seem that Haringey are now doing away with an initial consultation and moving directly to Statutory Consultation, maybe hoping no-one will notice? Usual consultation run for 6 to 12 weeks with public engagement, statutory usually lasts 21 days and is publicised on lamp-posts and web-page as explained by the councillors - it is not the same thing...
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I hope people took the opportunity to watch the re-screening of the drama "The Project."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Project_(film)
It's uncanny how closely it seems to resemble at least some of the key current events now that the Starmer Project has succeeded.One similarity is the way that under Blair some deeply stupid and unjust decisions were made on the basis that following previous Tory policies was seen as unavoidable. Another aspect was showing how Party discipline meant that decent, principled new MPs were threatened, bullied and bribed - with promises of promotion - into following the Party Line, The filmed drama is said to have been based on actual events.
As onceuponatime an elected Haringey councillor I was occasionally put under pressure to follow the local Labour line. Including on occasions with threats of loss of the Party whip. I just ignored these attempts. I lacked all ambition which helped. And didn't fancy freebies like a trip to Cannes; or events tickets etc. etc. And my wife can afford to buy her own clothes.
I'm pleased that residents are objecting to the foolish proposal for higher daily parking charges. But also very disappointed that there don't seem to be far more ambitious interventions proposed on HoL to challenge local political decisions. Especially on the new budget.
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What interventions would you suggest, Alan?
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Oh dear! Where to start!
And personally I'm uncomfortable telling other people what to do. I prefer to begin by listening. My first really enjoyable work experience was as a social worker in a team whose members had very wide backgrounds and were generous in sharing their experience, knowledge and ideas. I'd hope that among HoL members there is at least a potential pool of life and work experiences to come up with fresh ideas which match and maybe even exceed those of the local political parties.
Roslyn, I wonder if you saw Ash Sarka's interview with Eyal Weizman of Forensic Architecture?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhn51LDDavY&t=626sWeizman says that "every problem in the world needs to create a community of practice to address it."
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I didn't but thanks - I lhear Ash when she's on Moral Maze. Head and shoulders above most of the others.
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