Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
More Traffic Headed for Wightman - 2 days to Act
Last October I raised the issue that possible street closures in surrounding areas would displace traffic our way.
One of the areas was Crouch End.
A consultation for those living/working in the area is in progress and one of the options being consulted on is the closure to through traffic (except for buses, emergency vehicles and cyclists) of one or more major roads, such as The Broadway.
A traffic survey for the Crouch End project suggests such a change might mean 2000 more vehicles a day in both directions for Wightman.
Harringay residents can make their views known via the questionnaire.
To complete the questionnaire go to:
https://www.haringey.gov.uk/parking-roads-and-travel/roads-and-stre...
After the initial section you can opt to only complete the one on traffic. The deadline is 2 February.
Postscript navigation note: (For oversized lorry stuck on Warham, see P14, here.)
Tags for Forum Posts: liveable crouch end, liveable neighbourhoods, oversize hgvs on warham, traffic
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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Thanks EMC2 for posting that Guardian link, which I'd missed.
Good, too, to get John McMullan's critique. Even if his magic bullet solution "All we need to do ... " - seems a bit too magical.
I thought the article focused too much on central London. Including the presumably obligatory quotes from the Go-To pontificators Tony Travers and Christian Wolmar.
(I was once invited to a meeting selling Wolmar as a London Mayoral candidate. Travers was there too. I made a comment that London looked rather different seen from Tottenham. By coincidence I wasn't invited again.)The single lane road from my window is empty. Even the carpark on each side has a few spaces. Half a driver's dream. "What did you dream? It's alright we told you what to dream." Advertisers drench TV viewers with dreams of shining new cars. With an attractive smiling passenger. In the ads the city street is empty. And leads almost instantly to another empty road; winding along a cliff-top with an impossibly blue ocean view.
I sometimes dream of riding a metro in a town I don't recognise.
An elderly uncle of mine owned a big car he used maybe once a week to drive across London and deliver a lecture. We pointed out that for a fraction of the cost he could book a minicab, sit comfortably, read the paper, look out the window, or re-read his notes.
Like any other addiction, cars are enjoyed by many addicts. Isn't that one place to start looking for solutions?
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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A bit too magical? All those Uber trips are meticulously recorded and customers give the company access to their debit/credit cards to take whatever payment is deemed necessary.
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Permalink Reply by Elizabeth on
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So Warwick Gardens gets a permanent road closure and fancy remodelling (see new thread) while Wightman and the Ladder get yet more traffic. Grrrrr.
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Permalink Reply by PeterPiper on
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Warwick Gardens "gets" huh, & all the Gardens are protected in the 'special enclosure', they wangled years ago, & guess who wasn't consulted? All done on the QT for the securing of votes. They had pop -up bollards, very fancy I must say. They kept failing, but LBH kept paying for the repairs at the expense of guess who? You and me & all the other council tax payers in Haringey. It's an island of tranquility, and source of much frustration. Then it was discovered that they were illegal, so now a couple of concrete blocks do the job. That's 'Highways' for ya. "2 legs good, 4 wheels bad"
Pleases add link to new thread.
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Permalink Reply by Adrian Hackney on
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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Meeting relating to this tonight in Wood Green. Time to get out from behind the keyboard?
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Permalink Reply by Zena Brabazon on
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Thanks Hugh
This clashes unfortunately with the Full Council meeting which is tonight at 7.30pm so I won't be able to attend. If you, or other contributors her are going, please do raise Wightman Road. Our member meeting has been shifted form tomorrow to the following week.Zena
Zena Brabazon
Deputy Leader of the Council
Cabinet Member for Children and Families
Cllr, Harringay ward
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Hi Zena
Is the member meeting the Councillor briefing on Liveable Crouch End? Did you manage to get a place on the Project Board?
Look forward to feedback from the meeting.
Peter
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Permalink Reply by James Hawtin on
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How did the meeting go?
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It was fine. It was a Living Streets meeting and the Council wasn’t involved. Nonetheless, I reiterated our request that they seek to influence any neighbouring projects such that traffic is not displaced to Harringay.
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I thoroughly enjoyed the experience. Access through the hotel bar (knock three times and whisper low, that you and I were sent by Joe (Ejiofor)) , the dimly lit back room with the wrong sort of furniture down a twisty almost subterranean corridor. Slightly surprised to see so many of the same people I've seen at so many meetings over so many years. I'd expected only new faces. Thank goodness us old boys have achieved so much, saving Hornsey Town Hall for public ownership, and getting exactly the right traffic scheme in Wightman Road for example.
The Living Streets team set out their agenda for the year. What I wrote down was
- Understanding and responding to Haringey Plans
- The Crouch End and Bruce Grove Liveable Neighbourhoods
- The shop owners' backlash against almost anything except more parking spaces
and that they intend to set up a cell in Crouch End. An agenda and an intention which could relieve the Crouch End Neighbourhood Forum of most of its responsibilities.
I particularly liked the repetition of the idea that any project must start with a statement of the problem. Made me think of breaches and observances.
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"exactly the right traffic scheme in Wightman Road for example" - subjective and frankly, what I would expect from someone who doesn't live on the ladder but needs it to get places in their car. Nice.
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