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Don't know who to vote for in the Euro elections?

Try the EU profiler site.
It asks you a series of questions about your political views, then analyses your answers. It then shows you where you are on the political spectrum and which parties match your political outlook. You may be surprised at the findings...I was.

EU profiler.eu


I also like this page from the BBC with lots of links and info about the Euro Elections

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John D:If the answer isn't the one you want, ask the question again ( ie Irish European Constitution referendum)

In that case, why bother having elections at all ?- once the electorate has decided.. you never need to ask them again.. how Stalinistic..! - Not only that, the same people who say that, hold the view that there should be another referendum in the UK, because the one held in 1975 isn't valid anymore -- double standards I'd say..

No of course, the Irish Government (as well as the European Commision) is correct to seek (and will get) another answer.. The Irish 'no' camp have led their country into glorious isolation, commonly known as a dead-end.. just like UKIP in Britain would do.. Still, now that 'get on your bike' Lord Tebbit of Ponders EndPlonk is on UKIP's side, they're bound to do well.. aren't they..?

The ignorance of many voters about what the EU is about is really gob-smacking
'The ignorance of many voters about what the EU is about is really gob-smacking.'
Couldn't agree more, Stephen. If the votometric profiler just gets us thinking about what we, the main and minor parties, and post-Nice & post-Lisbon EU stand for it will be worthwhile. Of course there's the added complexity (for UK voters) of the PR voting system.

The tragi-comedy of the Irish 'NO' in the post-Lisbon referendum was that the one member of the 27 whose constitution insists on consulting the electorate on such 'constitutional' or treaty changes made such a mess of it. Most voters hadn't read the Lisbon document, or even a summary of it. The Treaty itself (being more of a commentary on Nice than anything shockingly new) was a lawyers' document. The leaders signed it, then went home to ratify it. No problem for at least 24 members. Unfortunately Ireland's main parties made only belated efforts to explain it. Minor parties made merry hay with it, convincing enough voters that Brussels would now determine everything from Irish neutrality to Irish sexual ethics - besides removing small countries' EU Commissioners. Given the confusion, no wonder the electorate just decided to kick the Government for its leader's various financial shenanigans over the previous decade. The autumn re-run may have a little greater clarity.

Using our EU vote to kick Brown, Cameron or the other fellow just because the likes of Hazel Blears is incapable of paying her CGT but apparently quite capable of presiding over our social cohesion, would be more stupid than what led to Ireland's NO vote. UKIP + BNP would be a lot more isolationist than Declan Ganley's so-called 'Libertas' opportunists.
@ Stephen:

The referendum on the European Constitution was a one-issue vote. It wasn't an election. But even
if you consider it to be equivalent to an election, we can have up to five years in this country before having another go and we don't yet let the EU tell us how and when to vote.

Do you include me in the "many voters" ? I DID learn something during my nine years in Brussels.

But did you miss the :-) ?
John D: Do you include me in the "many voters" ?


No I didn't, but if the shoe fits...

I DID learn something during my nine years in Brussels

Did you?
I found the questions about immigration simplistic and loaded.
You can see what your profile will be before you answer.
Not much of a challenge to tailor the outcome with already held politicals.
How would you have framed the questions James? And why would you want to 'tailor the outcome'? If you are already sure in your own mind that you know where you stand on issues and who matches you politically, then you don't need to do the profiler. There's no point doing it if you already know the answer you want.

I have to admit I don't know what parties stand for on European issues and, like Pamish, was surprised at what I discovered. But that shouldn't be it. As the outcome questioned my long-standing belief about what I thought I knew, I'm now much more inclined to find out why and read more on what parties actually stand for rather than going on auto pilot and voting the way I always have because I think I know what 'my party' stands for.

This isn't telling me how to vote but challenging my pre-conceptions.
Why the aggression toward me ?
Oh dear James, I'm sorry you felt that my reply was aggressive, it was not meant to be. I thought I was answering your point about 'loaded questions' and was genuinely perplexed as to why a person completing the form would try to 'fix' it. It's just a tool for getting people to think about the issues, anyone can ignore it if they don't agree with the outcome.

The 'you' was not directed at you, personally, but used in the sense of ' if one knows' and I am interested in what you felt was loaded about the questions and how you felt they could have framed it differently.
I don't want to tailor the outcome. I just thought it was cheesey with questions like 'immigration - Good or Bad'.
Thats it, i did not write with sinister undertones or sarcasm. I was simply commenting that i found it unchallenging.

Then you jumped on me. Something for which you (rightly or wrongly) have castigated me. Fair's fair ain't it missus ?
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LIZ, thanks for putting up this link which I found interesting and which, as for you, yielded an unexpected result for me (so you're a proto-facist too, eh?! ;-).

As you suggest, the questionnaire would have little point or credibility if every time anyone completed it, it came up with, for example: You are basically communist!

If residents still don't know who to vote for (or why), they might like to come along to the local European Election Hustings, organised by Mario Petrou and about which I posted details.

In order to help publicize the hustings, I've added a nice photo of Stockholm, just one of the fine range of Heytesbury's bird pavilions.


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For those who perhaps haven't yet seen it - I would recommend the BBC's Europe editor Mark Mardell's Blog.. There are postings about the UK on it too.. it's not all 'across the water'. The comments are quite amusing sometimes, with would you believe it, the most cynical, negative ones coming from the UK..
I've just had a go on the profiler. It is a bit long,but the analysis it offered did make me smile it confirmed who I won't be voting for and I now know much more than I did before about what parties stand for- well worth doing. It also threw up a suprise for me too.

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