Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Unsociable impact of Finsbury Park Events on Stroud Green Residents
I have to post here to make some noise about the absolute antisocial nuisance of FPark events where I live.
Let me start by saying I have lived here for 33 years and NEVER experienced the debacle that is the cack-handed organisation of Haringey licensing.
The so called 'brains' behind this have decided to implement a taxi/minicab/uber pick up point on Osbourne Road Stroud Green Road - which has had a dreadful impact on all the surrounding residential homes - up to 18 vehicles, stopping on the main road, disrupting traffic flow, 3 point turns in the middle of the road, stopping on the main road ie parking up and waiting, a snaking traffic line around the very small one way system in front of small parade of shops underneath heavily populated flats and surrounding flat (which are people's homes!!). Both Friday 29 June and Sat 1 July the aggressive traffic of these cabs was relentless and I didn't get to sleep until 3am Friday, on Saturday 2am - HOW DARE HARINGEY BULLY RESIDENTS INTO THIS IMPACT ON OUR LIVING STANDARDS.
This is NOT O2 Arena, nor Wembley or Glastonbury - this park is being turned into an income revenue and quite frankly DAMN the residents - with absolutely NO RESPECT and CONSIDERATION shown to people who live here.
Who in their infinite 'wisdom' thought creating this as the cab pick up point was a 'good' idea - is it because it is social housing and flats above shops ie rented - so they can just disregard and disrespect our rights?
I telephoned @ 3 times Friday, young lady very pleasant, was promised a call back Saturday - guess what - nothing! I had to phone again twice from 4 pm regarding non existent call back - clearly shows they do not give a damn.
Finally Bale Garret called from Haringey Licensing and of course I was irate, as no one bothered to return a courtesy call, I had to chase them. Her communication manner was quite aggressive, yet she accused me of me defensive - guess what I am defensive, against my quality of life being aggressively impacted upon for events that do not benefit the community, but quite the opposite, causes problems.
I was promised the cab pick up point would cease at midnight and guess what - complete rubbish! I had to put up with honking horns from cabs, cabs descending on the pick up point, what seemed to be touting for business, shouting to people waiting to be picked up - all in the early hours of the morning ie from midnight to 2am.
I phoned the Haringey line again, and again the nice young Becky did her best, but the real power, complete dereliction of duty. No one in place to enforce the midnight cut off - again, where is the so called 'brains' of this operation??? they all baled out, and left no enforcement.
What I couldn't understand is I say a few plain clothes men randomly checking cab documents, and they were out after midnight, supposedly the cut off point, so why did they not tell cabs to vacate the area.
Stroud Green Road is NOT Holloway Road, it is a small local high street, and quietens down at night, hence loads of people live above shops.
This is unacceptable, and next weekend will be the same, cause these Haringey organisers will not pull their finger out to correct this nuisance, why, because they don't give a damn.
The pick up should be the busy area of Manor House or FPark Station or as I suggested the bus terminal for W7, W3 and 210. Recently the W3 bus lane at the terminus was resurfaced, so a bus stop outside café and car wash was utilised. this means the 210 could be moved there as the pick up point and the cabs could use the 210 lane in the bus terminal - WITH staff to control flow of cabs and traffic.
There is also the 4,19, 236 and 106 terminus - again designated points for black cabs, so TFL Public Carriage Office should make either of these the preferred pick up points for cabs - created for traffic, not where residents homes are!
The plus point is this terminus is not surrounded by home and if staffed properly, would not cause problems.
Personally, turning Finsbury Park into a music event is a relentless impact on residents.
There is also the amount of rubbish left from people waiting at the parade of shops, near Osbourne Road, which was left and not cleaned up.
So you can see the 'benefit' to an ordinary resident - none at all....
Replies to This Discussion
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Permalink Reply by Abi on
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Yes, I was at last night's event and unfortunately the situation in all of those respects was not good. I don't think this is an argument for not having events in the park though - some have been much better managed, it IS possible to get it right.
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Permalink Reply by ThaiDi on
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It may be a question of event size - it's a big jump from 15,000 attendees to 45,000!
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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I was in a cab going past the north west exit late Saturday evening as people were leaving. Got to say they didn’t look like happy campers.
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We really weren't - I was pretty scared actually. The decision to funnel attendees through a single gate at Manor House was incomprehensible really, especially given the size of the event which was 45K as others have mentioned. I had no idea that this was the largest event to be held in the park (recently, or ever?), nor of the considerable margin between this crowd size and that of the usual (15k).
With this in mind, I can't get my head around the exit policy. At Stone Roses and other events they allowed us to exit through several gates along Seven Sisters Rd. Had I known they were going to do it the way they did, there is no way I'd have gone.
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Permalink Reply by bleue on
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All these need to go to what they term as the 'wash up' although we've got next weekend to get through.
There is also the possible issue that Tesco on Stroud Green has had no power for best part of Friday, Sat and zero Sun - the suspicion is the grid has overloaded due to the event and if this is true, then there is going to be a sizeable insurance claim on the event for large loss of profits!!
From what people are stating above, sounds like not just the inconsiderate cab pick up point where I live is a shambles, but much of the organisation...
They want to turn FinsPark into Wembley, Glasto and do not have the ability to organise it, but cause people stress and festival goers frustration - wouldn't call that a success in all honesty...
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Permalink Reply by Bethany Burrow Atherton on
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The BBC has picked up the unhappy festival goers: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-44679734
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The lack of availability of free water on such a hot day is bordering on the criminal. There should have been loads of water supplied all over the site. Some of the Twitter posts say that water bottles were confiscated on entry meaning that you couldn’t even look after yourself.
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Yeah, the security was both very strict and quite random. I had a perfectly nice experience and was let in with my water and bag, as well as very pleasant treatment by staff, but I gather that others were not so lucky. My friends queued for an hour to get drinks, which we drank very slowly from 6pm to the end of the night! It was weird and quite unlike anything I've seen in a full 20 years of festival going!
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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One complaint that the music wasn't loud enough there I see. Hilarious that they blame the bar queues on staff not turning up. At least this unofficial strike action by 40% of their staff will have hit their profits.
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I know there was dispruption on southern rail (what a surprise) on the day which could have stopped some staff turning up but any organisation worth its salt would have had a standby list of people to call on in an emergency
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