Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Dumped bikes
I've been seeing more and more cycles from the bike-share companies just dumped anywhere. There was a yellow Ofo one in the middle of my road the other day, and today a green Urbo one in the park, abandoned by a tree. Whose responsibility is it to collect these 'rogue' bikes, and isn't there some legislation about where bikes can be left so they don't cause a hazard or just plain litter?
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Permalink Reply by Gordon T on
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There's no legislation, just a TfL code of practice that the operators should have signed up to, such as moving bikes notified to them that have been left in a dangerous place. Link.
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Permalink Reply by matt on
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San Francisco's scooter war: city hits back as 'unlawful' schemes flood streets; https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/apr/17/san-francisco-el...
Send Sadiq a cease-and-desist letter Maddy.
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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How about we look at the cars that litter our roads and make them impassable to all but one way traffic? How about we look at the proximity of the emissions to a cyclists mouth in comparison to the person driving the car? How about we just accept that micro-transport in cities like London is the future - not as I'd previously thought, self driving motor vehicles.
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If people were as hot about the abandoned motor vehicles I might sympathise. Can't someone just move it to the pavement or down to the cycle stands at the bottom of Umfreville?
Talking to a Swedish colleague in Milan a couple of months ago he said that in Sweden common property belongs to everyone. In Italy common property belongs to nobody. Here there seems to be a mix.
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Move it down to the cycle stands? Dumped bikes there. The two cycle stands at the bottom of Umfreville each have an abandoned bike locked to them and have had since before 29 January. They arrived about a month after the previous pair of dumped bikes (captured on StreetView) were removed by the council. Not just cars that are abandoned, John.
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I understand and have myself removed abandoned bicycles but the harm they do is far out of proportion to the concern that they seem to cause "good, law abiding citizens".
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To be clear, the bikes locked to the bike stand are not hire bikes, nor were the previous pair.
As for hire bikes, it's a new concept and the initial thought is 'who dumped that?' rather than beginning to think of them as a convenient way of travel if you have the app and inclination. It all looks well random unless you're in the loop.
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I've now notified Frontline about the dumped bikes so they can post a notice to the dumpers before removing the bikes.
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Do they count as abandoned when the point of the scheme is that it's dockless so you leave them at your destination? Middle of the road is obviously stupid, but upright next to a tree seems less 'abandoned' and more 'left for the next person' - bike shares are popular for getting to/from/around parks.
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Permalink Reply by Maddy on
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It was on the grass away from the road, so had either fallen over or been thrown there by someone else - they don't 'wheel' unless unlocked I presume and I wouldn't try to lift it anywhere.
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If you think its bad here look at this
https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2018/03/bike-share-oversupply-in-...
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A few of the schemes have entered into agreements with local boroughs and they discourage you from leaving them outside of those boroughs.
Islington have signed up with Mobikes so you see them up to Stroud Green Rd where the border is (and obviously people will ride them beyond). I can't imagine Haringey will do anything so innovative, I'm not fully sure if they know what bikes are.
In terms of them being dumped, the obvious solution is to get rid of 10-20% of car parking spaces and convert them to bike parking so there will be places to leave them other than the pavement.
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