Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Harringay Green Lanes Station Barricaded against all Comers
As final evidence that the railway line that runs over Harringay's high street is now closed till February next year, the barricades went up yesterday.
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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The bridge is accessible for anyone to paint it if they like. And therein lies the problem :)
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Permalink Reply by Glenn Wallis on
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We can hope that Network Rail will repaint the bridge, but experience of Network Rail tells us that our hopes may well be dashed!
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Permalink Reply by matthew cuthbert on
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The upheaval should be 4-5 months, it's all about more freight, which is good to get it off the roads, but the upheaval leaves people behind, who rely on this line for work. Instead of a ten minute journey to the Whittington Hospital,it will be two buses, any guess how long that might take now.
The line operation will go to a franchise, with Arriva, which I have heard concerns about, particularly since the last bus operator was National Express, (who just put any profit into their fleet of buses.)
I thought TFL was working well with Overland expansion, keep the Overland under TFL operation.
The down side I have observed of electrification is the affect on pedestrian bridges, making them more enclosed and hostile, though I think most of these are now gone on the Barking Line.
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Permalink Reply by Alyson on
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I haven't used the replacement bus - not exactly frequent :( but they usually only stop at the train stops and so be a bit quicker than using 'two buses' on regular route?
- Service T: Walthamstow Central - Leyton Midland Road - Leytonstone High Road - Wanstead Park - Woodgrange Park - East Ham- Barking. Buses every 15 minutes on weekdays and every 20 minutes on weekends.
- Service J: Gospel Oak - Upper Holloway - Crouch Hill - Finsbury Park - Harringay Green Lanes - Seven Sisters (for South Tottenham). Buses every 20 minutes on weekdays and every 30 minutes on weekends.
Customers travelling between South Tottenham and Walthamstow Queen's Road stations can use the Victoria line. Full details of the alternative travel and ticketing arrangements can be found at: tfl.gov.uk/london-overground-closure.
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I'm afraid that the TfL webpage has a number of mistakes, not unusual for TfL!
Service J is actually running every 15 minutes on weekdays although we know that TfL want to cut it to every 20 minutes to save money, this cut is expected from 31 October, although nothing is confirmed as yet. Correct current information here: http://tinyurl.com/hjozow5
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Will remain part of the Overground, just franchised to an operator.
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Permalink Reply by AndrewAW1 on
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Arriva already were involved with running the Overground with a part venture between themselves and MTR.
For whatever reason, when the new tender came up it went solely to Arriva without involvement from MTR.
I'm not sure if it's any more a bus company than a train company. It's ultimately owned by the German train company, Deutsche Bahn.
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The electrification will give electric freight trains an alternative to the North London Line. No more will eastbound electric freight train drivers have to stop at Gospel Oak Junction and phone the signaller, "Hello mate, think I better go the other way, I've got a lekky!" The electrification will allow, in time, for the grossly overcrowded 2-carriage diesel trains to be replaced by new 4-carriage electric trains.
The last time National Express had anything to do with the line was as the parent company of Silverlink Train Services, before TfL took over responsibility for the passenger services in 2007. TfL let the first London Rail Concession to a train operator jointly owned by Hong Kong Mass Transit Railway (MTR) and Laing, Laing later selling their stake to Deutsche Bahn, who after buying Arriva, operate all their UK bus and rail passenger operations under the Arriva name (Rail freight is branded DB Cargo). Under the concession, the revenue goes to TfL, the operator receiveing a management fee.
When the concession came up for renewal, MTR & Arriva put in separate bids and Arriva won, Arriva Rail London taking over in November. MTR won the TfL concession to operate Crossrail.
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