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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Oxford Street to be pedestrianised by 2020 ... so Wightman Rd ...

 ... can surely be closed to through traffic in the future, as it currently is during the bridge works. If the planners can deal with the re-routing of all those buses and taxi journeys away from Oxford Street for the pedestrianisation plans, it must be possible to do this for Wightman Road as well.

Living Wightman would do well to have a chat with the new Mayor's office.

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Apparently they don't make a sign big enough to say "Permeable Filtering".

Looking at the study map, it seems most, if not all, of the solutions that you proposed have been mercilessly voted down. There are also numerous comments from ladder residents who are suffering the effects of the current closure, and who wish to see the road reopened.

I didn't see see that nick. There was one comment on reoprening the road, in my opinion comments were largely trying to see the bigger picture rather than playing to partisan self interest.

"I live on Beresford rd. the current situation of complete closure of Whitman road is a nightmare. I have a disabled mother in law and two young children I cannot cycle everywhere and my mother in law is completely wheelchair bound so public transport is a no go. What previously was a 10 minute drive  now takes 30-40 minutes. The hospice which took her to weekly activities has refused to puck her up due the hours spent on traffic."

"I completely agree, I have lived on sydney rd for over ten years and the lack of traffic is quite nice, but the pay off for the amount of time and inconvenience to daily family life the road closures have caused is unbearable. I have to use my car for work, so please don"t say walk and the bus takes just as long, Ive tried it. A five minute journey now takes at least 30-40 mins. I have to pick up my daughter from school drop her to crouch end then go back through the traffic hopefully in time to.."

"Agree with some of the comment re equality assessment. The current situation for the disabled reliant on cars is a nightmare for oval residents. Why penalise us when the traffic is mainly out if area. 10 minute journeys have become in excess of hours! Makes me want to cry and leave the area completely!"

"The closure is a disaster. Traffic backs up to the YMCA crouch end and takes me up to 15 minutes just to get out of Sydney rd onto Wiloughby Rd/Turnpike Lane, and Sundays is even worse because of people parking both. sides of Wiloughby rd. Some traffic calming would be great but with a closure like this the traffic is horendous"

Penny, That's not how I've seen it.

I agree with you there Antoinette but as I've been saying for years this is impossible unless you close Wightman Rd altogether or put in road narrowings to deter just the commercial traffic. You can't do anything useful or fair if you exclude Wightman Rd from the solution.

Nick, there are numerous comments to the contrary which I can share. The key thing is that this filtered closure of wightman road lacks the ameliorating introduction of improvements to Green Lanes and an holistic adjustment of traffic management throughout the wider area. Exactly the challenge the Green Lanrs Transport Study is seeking to address. Also measuring the map posts in votes is naive as without corresponding comments these are meaningless.

If they are meaningless then why did the survey allow them? I'm assuming they added this rating system to see how popluar, or unpopular suggestions are.

I really don't know JulieB. It seems odd to me. Yes they can measure popularity or the reverse but voters don't have to explain their vote with a comment which is why I found it a bit meaningless. I guess they are taking the temperature rather than taking serious note of votes on suggestions.

I actually think it's a good idea to measure popularity of suggestions. There are a lot of repeated/very similar posts so I'm sure not everyone has time to make a comment on every one of these.

I agree it's a good idea to measure popularity although in this case the mechanism is a bit flawed. I don't think the system required you to create a user account in order to click the thumbs up/down icons. Even if it did, there is nothing to stop you creating multiple accounts - it doesn't even confirm the email address - so a single person could easily cast multiple "votes".

Let's hope phase 2 of the consultation - the longlisting and shortlisting phase - is a bit less open to abuse.

The voting recognises your IP address, so you can't vote for something more than once from the same computer even if you set up multiple accounts. I don't think anyone would bother logging in from different locations just to skew the figures.

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