Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Oxford Street to be pedestrianised by 2020 ... so Wightman Rd ...
... can surely be closed to through traffic in the future, as it currently is during the bridge works. If the planners can deal with the re-routing of all those buses and taxi journeys away from Oxford Street for the pedestrianisation plans, it must be possible to do this for Wightman Road as well.
Living Wightman would do well to have a chat with the new Mayor's office.
Tags for Forum Posts: traffic, wightman bridge closure
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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So why is there a problem ?
Congestion on Wightman and Green Lanes has been increasing over time since I moved here in 1998. But my post was about the whole of London, not just Harringay. Take a look at the North Circular, the Blackwall Tunnel, Knightsbridge.
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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Over the last few decades the working population of London has been priced out of living here. You can see that from the growth in population in what once were small towns and cities that orbit the M25. Unfortunately the growth in these populations wasn't matched by an increase in transport options or even capacity. I was at Moorgate at 8pm this morning and the number of us who disgorged from the sardine tin quaintly known as a train was astonishing. We shuffled along the platform only to meet another herd of poor souls coming from the Northern line. I honestly believe this is where the real increase in traffic is from..all the data shows that car ownership amongst Londoners is decreasing while those needing to travel into the city just keeps on climbing.
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Permalink Reply by Angela on
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I agree Michael.
Key workers can no longer afford to live locally (not just here either)
And I assume the traffic is more than just cars - vans, lorries, skip trucks etc as well as the rise and rise of online shopping as well as 'takeaways'.
Local Zip car type schemes could be increased as well bike hire.
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But at the end of the day, you still own a car yourself....what would it take for you to give up yours? I can say hand on heart that I tried to give up owning my own car, then I was allocated a school place 1.5 miles away. I still stick to my contention that there are enough journeys that I would simply not undertake at all if I didn't have my own car. The horseball competitions in a field in the middle of nowhere; the getting home from my friends in Chelmsford at 1am; getting my son and his bike to the velodrome; or my arthritic mother out to a National Trust property on a Sunday afternoon. Why should I be forced to give those things up when I'm not commuting in my car? The problem isn't the occasional weekend car users like myself.
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I will give up my car when I'm forced to - which is the solution I'm putting forward.
I'm not sufficiently altruistic to lead the way.
We can complain about the traffic until we are blue in the face - and then come to realise that WE are the traffic.
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Permalink Reply by Finsbury Park Ranger on
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Private vehicles have no place in London. Uber offers an amazing experience. They even do car pooling and disabled taxi's. There is no justification for private car ownership in London. However John I agree with you, never berate the individual for making a selfish choice, berate the people that run the system in a way which allows selfish choices to have such anti social outcomes for everyone.
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Permalink Reply by matt on
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Antoinette, I understand where you're coming from as I do you John and yourself FP-r-u-a-dad-yet-R. I'm in the middle of seeing what it's like not having a car since I got rid of it in March. Good in most respects as I'm doing a lot more walking, cycling and the occasional bus use. I don't have to think about a car, its maintenance or taxes which it wonderful. Having no car to pop into may have stopped a few spontaneous trips east or west but nothing significant.
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In what way is a journey in an Uber car any different from a journey in my own car? Except an Uber journey from Chelmsford at 1am would cost probably £60 and in my own car £6
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What if you want to go outside London? How are you supposed to get there? You could Uber to the station and catch the train, but what do you do when you get off the train at the rural station that doesn't have a taxi rank or a local Uber driver? You could hire a car, but what's the difference between hiring a car and owning one?
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Permalink Reply by JulieB on
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Yes and what do we do with 2 or 3 children's car seats that we'd need to put in the uber to get to the station? They are fairly bulky and I couldn't carry them plus 2 or 3 children and a buggy and changing bag, snack packs, scooters etc.
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You don't need a car seat for children in a taxi (because they NEVER crash, fact) but I don't know whether that applies to Ubers. But totally agree - how would you get the travel cot and highchair to the grandparents in Wales (e.g.) via Uber and public transport? How would you go on a camping holiday in France via the ferry? People have cars because they're useful.
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