Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Salaries paid to the 'top ten' employees of Haringey Council
MY attention has been drawn to the answer to a resident's Freedom of Information question, about the salaries paid to Haringey's senior staff.
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Please supply a list of the job title and the salary for each of the
highest ten salaries paid to your employees, as from 18th April, 2016.
Please also supply the number of people employed in the "Senior Management Team," and the sum total of their salaries, also as from 18th April 2016
My response is as follows:
The top 10 positions are as follows:
Chief Executive £191,318.00
Deputy Chief Executive £153,472.00
Chief Operating Officer £153,472.00
Director of Regeneration, Planning & Dev £148,672.00
Director of Childrens Services £126,200.00
Assistant Director for Human Resources £126,200.00
Director of Adult Social Services £126,200.00
Tottenham Programme Director £120,000.00
Director of Public Health £112,269.00
AD for Commercial & Operations £112,200.00
The Council has an Executive Management team made up of the Chief
Executive, Deputy Chief Executive, Chief Operating Officer and the
Director of Regeneration, Planning & Development. The total annual salary
for these posts is £646,934.00.
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CDC
Haringey Councillor
Liberal Democrat Party
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Permalink Reply by Judith Box on
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But John - that was my point - there is no need to request this information under a freedom of information request - that is misleading. This information is freely available and published on the Haringey Website - you can find it in a couple of seconds.
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Permalink Reply by john higson on
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Well, I was just taking up the point of the original poster, Clive Carter, who I assumed made this FoI request for good reason. You're very welcome to nitpick and quibble with me, but do you not agree that to give these mediocre people this kind of money in a borough where so many are degraded, destitute and hungry is really quite obscene?
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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He didn't, John.
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As the law stands, Alex, you don't have to say why you want information. Meg Bott or anyone else, didn't need to give a good reason - or any reason at all - to make her Freedom of Information request.
(By contrast councillors do, when they rely on their 'need to know'.)
Yes, much information is publicly available. What the Information Commissioner's Office refers to as making certain information "routinely available" or "publishing certain information proactively".
The whole aim is to make information available to the general public.
And I would hope, to change the culture of Government bodies, so "open" is the new default. It's more democratic. Probably also cheaper. -
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Do you know Meg Bott? Do you know whether or not she was familiar with what is or isn't on the Council's website? Or why she made the FoI request?
I don't.
I hope she and other people don't read this website. They may start to feel uncomfortable about exercising their right to ask questions of their Council.
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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John, it didn't require an FoI request. That's just the impression a Clve wants to give. All of the salaries quoted are published by law
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Michael, what has Clive written which suggests his purpose is to give this "impression"?
He posts a link without any comment, to the reply to Meg Bott's Freedom of Information request. She was initially referred to the Council's website.
From the Council's second reply to Meg Bott we can infer that she sent a follow-up email clarifying her request. Which the Council then answered; having delayed a short while for the entirely sensible reason that they wanted to give her up-to-date information. (Though her follow-up email doesn't appear on the WhatDoTheyKnow site.)
Residents can indeed search the Council's website for information. And there's lots there which is helpful and detailed on all sorts of topics. But they can also choose to make a Freedom of Information Act request. -
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Alan - really. You don't think that Clive as an elected councillor isn't aware that this information is freely available?
Why was his 'attention' drawn to information he presumably already knows. Why mention the FOI at all if all he wanted to do was to make us think about the renumeration of the CEO/Directors.
This is classic spin. You don't need to say something outright - it's all in the semiotics.
This is what I hate most about politics. The ambiguous deniability. The clever use of semiotics and rhetoric.I guess I was just interested in what is was that Clive found so interesting in this information. And have made my own inferences of that.
Don't get me wrong - I think that talking about this stuff is important. I think accountability is important. I think that we do need to think about equality and what that means and looks like. But if that's what we're talking about - then just be upfront and explicit about it - don't shroud it in weird puzzle like ways.
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Clive knew It was public information back in 2009 (link below) and has raised the issue several times.
. This post makes it seem as if it's some secret Julian Assange has torn from the unwilling grasp of Haringey. http://www.harringayonline.com/forum/topics/new-rules-require-counc... -
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Permalink Reply by Xavier on
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I am not justifying the wages but take the NI and banded income tax off each sum (which in this case of public employment is money in/money out) and the income would be significantly less.
The difference between the above and highly-waged company executives is that the latter's customers and shareholders have a choice.
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Zena Brabazon and I went to a talk by Danny Dorling at the launch of the second (rewritten and updated) edition of his book Inequality. In it he sets out what he believes to be the five current new "tenets of injustice": that elitism is efficient; that exclusion is necessary; that prejudice is natural; that greed is good; and that despair is inevitable.
Professor Dorling appears to be a one-man writing, speaking and publishing whirlwind. People may have seen his book on the housing crisis: All that is Solid which came out in paperback last year.
So far this year he's published A Better Politics which is currently available free as a downloadable pdf file.
We spoke briefly to Danny Dorling after the talk and asked if he would be willing to come to Tottenham and give a talk about his work. He was happy to do so - especially as has been spending time in Enfield on behalf of his University.
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