Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Are bicycles supposed to stick to the 20mph speed limit?
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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And a friend of mine spent five years in a vegetative state before dying, after being hit by a cyclist riding on the pavement.
We all need to take care and we can start by obeying the law.
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Permalink Reply by CanadianMichael on
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In North America pedestrians have given up on pavements because of cyclists like this. Now we stick to sidewalks.
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Permalink Reply by Joe on
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Yes the end of oil marks the end of the whole automobile industry. A shame one never thought to make them work with electricity and other renewable sources of energy. Oh! but wait...
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There are bad cyclists and bad motorists and bad motorcyclists... There isn't a pecking order in my opinion...
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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There is actually. There is no law prohibiting pedestrians from being in the road whenever they wish in this country. So it's pedestrians with first right on the road, the only thing keeping them off it is human drivers unable to hit the brakes in time. After that, it's unclear, I agree.
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My point was bad motorists are not inherently worse than bad cyclists....they just have the capacity to do more damage
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There is certainly a different magnitude of danger though. If I had to be hit by one of the three I know which one I'd chose.
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@JohnD -- U trollin' bro?
I'm an overweight, middle-aged office worker with two young kids. Because I want to be involved with their lives, gym-time just doesn't make the cut.
So cycling to work is my only real exercise opportunity.
I stop at red lights. I stay off the side walk. I got lights at night up the wazoo.
Tarring all cyclists with the same brush can be a pretty destructive attitude, especially when it shapes how motorists feel about the next cyclist they encounter.
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@ Canadian Michael -
Canadian Michael - I didn't say, nor do I believe, that ALL cyclists break the law. But a significant proportion of them do.
As a matter of interest, my friend who was killed worked for the CBC.
You will recall that the justification for lowering the speed limit in Haringey to 20 mph was that injuries in the case of an accident are less severe at that speed ( and I go along with that ) .
Now, doesn't that apply to cycling too ?
If I were hit by a cyclist, or motor vehicle, I would much rather it was by someone at 20 mph than 30 ( or more ) and accordingly I personally feel that speed limits should apply to cyclists.
I'm glad that you cycle responsibly but I wish that ALL cyclists would do likewise. However, the point of my initial post was that you can legislate until you are blue in the face but, without effective enforcement, or a change in the culture, there will always be those road users who flout the law.
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The difference is that a cyclist who colides with you will also come off badly. My nightmare is hitting one of the pedestrians that leap out in front of me crossing the road with their ears.
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Or worse a baby buggy emerging from between parked cars as happened to me. But you must concede that as stopping distances are affected by speed (reaction time plus braking time) perhaps the uber-cyclists need to consider for their own safety and that of pedestrians slowing down to within the speed limit set for motorised traffic even though they are not legally required to do so. Obviously I realise you're not going to agree.....
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