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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

ZAC votes to leave (and so does Boris).

London mayoral elections are on May 5th. Zac Goldsmith has come out for voting to leave the EU. Sadiq Khan has decided he'd like to see the UK stay within the EU. A clear dividing line between these two candidates. 

With the EU vote the following month this issue could end up being the deciding factor between the two candidates. Difficult to say how Londoners feel about the EU but probably more than anywhere else within the UK (apart from Scotland) the majority of the city's inhabitants are for staying within the European Union.

If this is the case then Sadiq is our next mayor ... unless voters (who bother to turn up at their polling station) think other issues will loom larger in their minds as they enter the polling booths. 

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Permalink Reply by Old-Age-Emporium(OAE) on February 22, 2016 at 13:46

So, Stephen you want to sit over there in your adopted Ost-Harringay and divest me of my vote because it's not my future I'm deciding. Why not take my balls as well - I haven't been making much use of them either for the past few years.

Permalink Reply by StephenBln on February 22, 2016 at 13:52

 I trust you with your vote.. I certainly don't trust many others, some under 60..  A blinding example,  Daniel Hannan - the perfect sly anti-EU tory free marketeer and all the rest. Reasons to be worried ..Part two..

Permalink Reply by StephenBln on February 22, 2016 at 11:59

One small point for those who believe the myth that a Brexit will stop EU citizens arriving in the U.K.

All EU citizens will still be able to legally reside in the Republic of Ireland. Those who are legally there, will continue to have passport free access to the U.K. Unless that is, the U.K. builds walls around Northern Ireland. Or defaults on the Internationally Binding Agreement with the Republic of Ireland.

Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on February 22, 2016 at 12:12
Stephen, PLEASE don't give anyone ideas about wall building, otherwise we'll have Mr Trump here as project manager if he's still looking for a job post election.
Permalink Reply by michaelw on February 22, 2016 at 12:22

The most likely Brexit option - if we want to retain full access to the EU internal market - is that we join the EEA, with Norway etc. This will mean that the UK must retain full free movement, we must also pay into the EU & we must accept that the EU makes the regulations for products & services without us getting any vote.

At the moment of course we do get a vote - both through our government & MEPs - on all EU regulations.

If we did a full Brexit from the EU (& so were just governed by world trade organisation rules) then we would not have direct access to the EU internal market & we would be subject to tariffs in many areas when exporting to the EU. EU citizens living in the UK might have to leave or apply for some sort of new visa, and the very large number of UK citizens living in the rest of the EU would have similar problems.

Here's one article explaining why it is so important for the UK economy to have full access to the EU internal market: https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/no-brexit-rational-bri...

Permalink Reply by matt on February 22, 2016 at 13:15

Good summary. Which is why Brexit = Bollixts

Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on February 22, 2016 at 13:27
Permalink Reply by StephenBln on February 22, 2016 at 13:45

Exactly. This is what happens when Nationalism comes to the fore. The return of the old fashioned left/right confrontation.

Before we know it, we'll have another war on our hands. The EU has given 'us' over seventy years without a conflict. The sceptics are just waiting for their opportunity..  All that peace thrown away for material reasons.

Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on February 22, 2016 at 14:02
Stephen, there hasn't been seventy years of peace, there have been seventy years of constant war. We don't fight in Europe anymore, we do it in other countries.
Permalink Reply by StephenBln on February 22, 2016 at 14:19

Yes the U.K. has been at war ever since WW2..

It hasn't learnt anything.

Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on February 22, 2016 at 14:26
Come on Stephen. War have raged around the world since 1945. From Korea to Iraq via Vietnam and they have been mostly proxy wars between the USA and the USSR/Russia in which many European countries have supplied troops and weapons. The USA and USSR wouldn't have dreamed of having a war where Europe was the battleground as there was too much danger that valuable infrastructure and industry would be damaged. The EU had nothing at all to do with it.
Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on February 22, 2016 at 14:00
Some people might remember the very similar dire warnings there were about 15 years ago, about the terrible danger we would be in if we did not change to the Euro.

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