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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

New brand identity strategy for Haringey

"I am in"

Discuss.

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Haringey Councillor
Liberal Democrat Party

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update to mark the 'soft launch' (click to enlarge):—

The £20,000 film, The Haringey Story

Tags for Forum Posts: I am in, Local Government, brand strategy, folly, identity, nonsense, vanity, waste of money

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It's a building I know well, Clive. Yes, that's a clear influence!

Abster, another possible influence – in terms of colour and type style – may have been the logo of the National charity for single homeless people (their home page is here).

Yes I arrived in London some 20 years ago and llived on Clapham High Street - people said "that place is a s... hole".

I moved to Brixton - colleagues got mugged and said " Not me I'm moving out."

I bought in Brockley - it was a dishevelled conserrvation area with loads of charm but quite rough at the edges.

All these places have come along so much in those 20 years. All of them had high levels of deprivation, big estates and Brockley certainly is not as close to central London as is Seven Sisters.

What has happened in Tottenham. People say the place has gotten worse!

It's hardly a surprise that Kober & Co want to start a new life under their new identity:  The Council with a dismal reputation dropping the word "council" and rebranded as Haringey-London-you-can-see-Canary-Wharf-from-here. 

Many other mediocre London businesses use images of well-known central tourist spots in an attempt to give themselves some glitz-by-association.

The fact is they are rightly ashamed to be "the Council" and are hiding from their "previous" by pretending to speak for the place.

You seem like quite a bitter man Alan, is there any reason for that?

Reaching for the ad hominem fallacy, Shem?  Dismiss someone's argument by impugning the person's motivation?

Bitter? Not in the slightest. Simply trying to be honest and open. And speaking truth to Power. But in anger and passion because a stream of meaningless insulting bullshit is being pumped out at our expense.

I think, Alan, that yours and Clives' motivation in this debate is highly suspect, and for those of us that don't breathe the rarified air of the Council Chamber, a typical display of the posturing, point scoring, politics that has turned off many a voter in the last couple of elections. I can see why, now, the pair of you can't answer honestly. If this logo had been designed by Leonardo da Vinci, you'd have hated and questioned it. It's utterly germane to this debate and borderline unethical. Just so you know, that those of us who are not involved in local politics, find your affected air of an outraged citizen boring, boring, boring. I've no idea what you really think, because you don't.

Oh, motivation is it? More ad hominem, Shem. 

Ending with a personal insult. Almost always a sign someone has lost the argument.

Nobody forces you to read what I write. Nor to add your comments to it.

Alan, You don't know me and I don't know you, and I can assure you if I wanted to insult you I could do a whole lot better than that. Your delusion and arrogance however, know no bounds do they? I haven't lost anything, I have just made the point that because you hate this Labour administration for whatever reason, your comments about this 're-branding' have a hidden, or not so hidden agenda, and that appears to have hit a raw nerve. It also skews any real debate. It's not a personal attack on you Alan, it's the principal. You say you want to be honest, then you should make it clear to people. Quite why Hugh allows you to peddle such tosh on HoL I have no idea. But free speech is free speech I suppose.

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You don't know me and I don't know you" . Completely true, Shems.

Which hasn't stopped you making more personal remarks: about my "delusion and arrogance"; and that "I peddle tosh". Also claiming to know better than I do, my supposedly "hidden agenda".

I assume that simply means we disagree. It happens.

Shem

When you've finished the personal insults, would you care to answer my serious question ? ( on page 8 )

No John, not until you state whether you, like quite a few people on this thread... work for the council, are an elected member of said council, are a serial council botherer, or just hate them because no one emptied your bins this morning, if it's no to all of the above, then maybe we can enter into some honest discourse. I'm sorry if you see my previous posts as 'personal insults', I just don't like hypocrisy...

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