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Removal of railings along Harringay Passage (at junctions with the roads)

Apart from Adam Coffman was anyone else aware this work - removal of railings along Harringay Passage (at junctions with the roads) - was happening?

I know it was discussed at the first meeting of the Harringay Passage Group (yet to be constituted) in January, but wasn't aware a decision had been made between the council & a few residents that this work was to go ahead.

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Permalink Reply by Richard Woods on February 8, 2014 at 12:37

But even if we could slow the cars enough, say 15 mph, a child could still be seriously injured. But yes, why not a nice row of planters? Just hope the do not cost too much (including maintenance). BTW, are they not also removing the trees? it will start to like it did in the 40s - UGH!

Permalink Reply by Hugh on February 8, 2014 at 13:59

Like pedestrian priority as a start? Really this should be the case in any unclassified residential road.

 

See also here.

Permalink Reply by maggie on February 8, 2014 at 19:10

This photo of the right hand Warham Road planter. It is meant to go on page 11 with the other photo but for some reason it won't behave. There is no bush and never has been.

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Permalink Reply by Lucy Jaffe on February 14, 2014 at 13:20

Here is a response from Haringey Council on 13th February from Tony Kennedy about the railings following a meeting Cllr Gina Adamou. If you have comments etc, please contact the Ward Councillors direct. I have no further information.

Dear Harringay Councillors,

 

As you will be aware, a meeting was arranged for this morning to discuss why the pedestrian barriers at the entrances to Harringay Passage were removed without consultation or notification. The meeting was attended by Cllr Adamou.

 

At the meeting officers acknowledged their error and agreed the following:

 

  1. Temporary pedestrian guard rails have been installed at the Falkland Road junction to ensure pedestrian safety is maintained. The type of guard rails used was available immediately from our contractors depot.  
  2. A site meeting will be organised with the ward councillors to visit each junction along the passage. The purpose of the meeting will be to consider if guard rails should be reinstated or if alternative safety measures should be considered.
  3. Consultation will take place with the local schools and resident groups regarding the need for guard rails along all the junctions.    
  4. Any guard rail reinstatement will be delivered in March once agreement is reached.
Permalink Reply by matt on February 14, 2014 at 13:29

Thanks Lucy

I was under the impression from David Schmitz (Lib Dem councillor) that he was meeting Tony Kennedy today Friday, with the other two councillors of our ward. Either I've heard wrong or Gina has had her own meeting with Mr Kennedy!

Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on February 15, 2014 at 0:28

Matt, it's even worse.

Step 1. Apologise for getting it wrong.  Step 2. A meeting apparently with one Harringay ward councillor which agrees the process to be followed.  Step 3. Plan site meetings with ward councillors to consider if guard rails should be reinstated or not.  Step 3. Consultation with local schools and residents' groups.

So I wonder why Ed Miliband bothered writing and delivering the Hugo Young lecture this week? Didn't anyone watch or read what Ed said?  Or if they did, what did they make of ideas like:

"The time demands a new culture in our public services. Not old-style, top-down central control, with users as passive recipients of services."  . . . "We should always be seeking instead to put more power in the hands of patients, parents and all the users of services." . . . 

"But this is about much more than the individual acting simply as a consumer.  It is about voice as well as choice."

"Building a real movement is the best hope of keeping the political conversation grounded in the reality of people’s lives."

Referring to Saul Alinsky, Miliband argues that people should not be "helpless, passive recipients of private or public services”.  He warmly mentions Richard Sennett and Hilary Cottam who advocate different more mutually respecting, participatory models.

Miliband advocates:"that decisions should be made by users and public servants together, and not public servants on their own."

So here's a man who wants to be Prime Minister who is open to new ideas. Who reads, thinks and learns. I want him to get the job.  But clearly, if he does it'll be a very bumpy ride. Not least in persuading some Labour local councillors that the culture of their Councils is part of the problem.

(Tottenham Hale ward councillor)

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