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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

I would like to propose that we set up a 'Friends of the Harringay Passage'.

This crucial 'spine' of the Harringay Ladder has been neglected for too long and maybe a community group will get their voices heard by Haringey Council more effectively than a few individuals.

The aims of the group could be:

- to keep the planters looking nice,

- work with the council to design out fly-tipping hot spots and remove street clutter

- design a Masterplan for making the Passage work better for pedestrians

- street party at the widest section, between Effingham and Fairfax!

Let me know if you are interested, and if enough people are then we could have an inaugural meeting in January.

Regards

Adam

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I don't think there will be an overlap between what the LCSP was set up to do - clue is in the name Ladder *Community Safety* Partnership-and the aims that Adam has outlined above. I attended the LCSP for many months and found it both a useful meeting to get information related to the crime and (my interest) grime agenda and also a good forum for sharing concerns, for example about planning issues relating to HMOS which at the time felt like they were running out of control. Ian Sygrave, the chair, is right on the ball when it comes to planning law and, if you read back through the archive, HOL and the LCSP started a campaign against betting shop clustering that is now a nationwide issue. The LCSP is a force for good and do much valuable work on 'community safety'.

BUT, in all the time that I was attending, there was little interest from members in *starting* the kind of initiatives that Adam is outlining above. The work of improving the Ladder's green spaces was as a result of Friends groups forming, (I believe Cllr Adamou was part of at least one of them) and, as past posts of mine will demonstrate, I believe the Passage should be treated as a green space in that it is traffic-free, there is much of nature to admire as you wander down it and there are lots of opportunities where it bisects Ladder roads to garden and create 'pocket parks' that will enhance the experience further. As a starting point, we have an audit of the Passage done with Living Streets (LCSP chair was invited but was unavailable) that was done months ago and many of the recommendations are still in need of chasing up, just simple things such as street name signs that have been taken away and not replaced but also greater ambitions for our pedestrian super highway.

So I am very disappointed that a sitting Harringay councillor should come on the site after months, nay years of silence, essentially to tell residents that we are doing it all wrong and that we should be 'getting involved' elsewhere. I would have hoped that *all* our councillors would have been interested in listening and helping out with this single focus resident-led initiative and would have offered their help to get things off the ground. 

Agree with your last para Liz. I couldn't remember her last post and had to search the archive, to find very little. Is there an election coming up ?

You mean that really was Gina on here yesterday, not just some doppelganger or Her Visible Vicar on Earth?  In either case, there must be an Election Year in the offing.

But Adam & Co, I think you'll have to become an Underground Movement if you really wish to undermine Adamou's magnificent work on the Passage.  No doubt some of you are already beavering away like Sewer Rats.

I am the chair of Adults and Health Scrutiny panel .I am Chairing two scrutiny reviews on mental health one on physical health and the other on housing issues. I am also a member on the Overview and scrutiny committee at the moment we are looking at the budget.

I have surgery on the second and fourth Saturday of the month at 11am-1pm. Saturdays I do not have surgeries I am out and about talking to people on their door step and pick up a lot of case work. today I have just pick up 2 cases by simply going to school to pick my grandson. I am a hard working councillor my record speaks for itself. I do not have a lot of time to be on line, if you do not like Labour Councillors that`s fine but there is no reason to attack me you do not know anything about me or the work I do but a lot of people do. by the way your invisible councillor is going to scrutiny meeting from 5.30pm-10pm. Have a nice christmas , Cllr Gina Adamou

Yes, admirable I'm sure.

I personally never said anything about *Labour* councillors. Don't make this "tribal".

Look, if you choose not to engage online that's fine, in which case, offer your support to Adam when you see him at the school gate of NHP. Or phone him.

But if you don't intend to support us at all, you don't need to comment at all. Here. At the school gate. At your surgery. Here, there or anywhere.

Gina, 

Please don't get things out of perspective here. I know that you are a long-serving councillor and are well respected by a sizeable constituency in the ward. 

I welcome your joining the debate, but on this occasion when you did so, I think it's fair to say that you poured cold water on what seems to be a well-supported resident initiative. I think you were wrong to do that and I've already explained above why I think that.

In reaction you got a little anger. To be honest, I wasn't surprised. I very nearly responded to one of the comments in your defence because I think it was possibly a little robust. However, since you are an elected representative and since the comment referred to your actions in that capacity, I let it ride and thought you might want to respond yourself. 

Hear hear Liz!

It was really annoying to read such a negative (and very repetitive) downer on a great resident-led initiative.

this sounds a great idea. It could be valued so much more. 

Apologies for the change of date but due to a clash with the St Anns and Harringay Area Committee, the Friends of Harringay Passage meeting will now take place on Tuesday January 14th at 7pm in the Falkland Centre.

This is clashing with a PTA meeting for me, but I am sure there will be a good turnout and hopefully minutes afterwards.

I can make that new date Adam, look forward to it.

Adam, I'm afraid I too have got surgery on the 2nd and 4th Saturdays of Jan (old hips again) so may not be fit for any Underground Movements on the 14th.

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