Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Endymion Road - possible 20mph scheme
We have been chatting to a good number of residents living on Endymion Road and surrounding roads who are concerned about the speed of traffic on Endymion. Many residents were in favour of making Endymion Road a 20mph zone - this also makes a lot of sense as Wightman Road and the ladder roads are already 20mph.
I have asked the highways department at the council to consider adding this to their list of possible schemes. Sadly I have just received a response to say that the LIP funding is now agreed with TfL through a 3 year Delivery Plan as this provides boroughs with greater certainty of future funding allocations to develop and delivery programmes. The current Delivery Plan is between 2011-2014 and Neighbourhood / Corridor programmes have already been identified for delivery in 2013/14. The programme does not contain provision for Endymion Road as this is not within one of the identified Neighbourhoods.
The council also have a Local Safety Schemes programme directly aimed at addressing Personal Injury Accidents (PIA) as recorded by the Police and held on TfLs accident database. The level of accidents along Endymion Road during the past three year period does not meet the criteria for inclusion in our 2013/14 programme as other locations in the borough are regarded a higher priority.
A glimmer of hope though, they will be considering priorities for their 2014-17 LIP Delivery Plan later this year and they have listed Endymion Road for consideration.
I will continue to liaise with highways on this. It is certainly worth starting the conversation because these things take so long to progress!
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Permalink Reply by Grant on
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Why 20mph on Endymion only? Camden, Islington, Waltham Forest and other London councils have committed to 20mph borough - wide. Haringey is starting to look increasingly out of step, not just with its neighbours, but the latest guidance for councils from DfT (https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-speed-limit-guidance-for-cou...). Among other things this guidance recommends that councils should introduce 20mph in residential areas or major roads where there are large numbers of people on foot (that sounds like most non-TfL roads in the borough) and that councils can consider average speed cameras to enforce 20mph zones.
Sounds like the highways department need to heed guidance from Government, revise their piecemeal approach and aim to make the whole borough, not just individual streets, more pleasant and safer for everyone.
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Permalink Reply by Frederick Guy on
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This would be a good step. 20mph ought to be the overall urban speed limit.
As for the Ladder roads, though: why is through traffic allowed at all? 97% of it must be rat runs; each individual driver is looking for a faster route, but turning in & out of Green Lanes & Wightman must, on the whole, slow traffic there (stand at the bottom of Pemberton or Hewitt and watch the cars merging into the queue on Green Lanes - stop go stop go); a possible and very happy outcome of no through traffic would be some traffic evaporation - an overall reduction of traffic in the neighborhood.
How to accomplish this? Turnarounds on either side of the Harringay Passage, on each Ladder road. It would make the Passage a car-free route for kids up & down the length of the ladder.
This wouldn't affect me directly, since I live on Lothair, which already *has* this benefit thanks to no bridge over the canal. Would anybody on Lothair trade for the through traffic that the other Ladder roads have? I think not.
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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How would this work for Veolia rubbish collections and removal vans? Would the trucks have to go down half way and reverse back up ( into the main road ) ?
If there were no filtering routes through the Ladder rungs I would guess that Green Lanes, Turnpike Lane and Endymion would be at a permanent standstill.
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Permalink Reply by Ben Adam Sohawon on
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To whom have you been chatting? I've honestly heard nothing about this, and I live on Endymion Rd.
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Seriously, I would like to know just how many Endymion Road residents you've been talking to. As far as my family and I know, nobody's been speaking to us. We've been on Endymion since 1980, live in what is now the only full house on the street (and therefore are probably the least likely to be moving out any time soon) and would appreciate being included in discussions.
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