Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Council announces £300,000 for 'traffic calming" in 'The Gardens' area of Harringay
The following is a press release from Haringey Council:
A local community will help redesign the street layout of their neighbourhood through a Haringey Council project that will see the area transformed.
The Gardens area off Green Lanes in Harringay has been chosen for the Community Streets neighbourhood improvement project.
The project will look at several key elements including innovative traffic calming design, reclaiming space, designing the streets for people rather than traffic, and promoting healthy and environmentally friendly transport modes.
The first year of the two year project will involve regular meetings with the local community to agree proposals and plan the street works which will begin next year.
The council has asked Sustrans, the UK’s leading transport charity who completed the successful Turnpike Lane DIY Streets project last year, to work with them again to get the community involved.
Haringey's Cabinet Member for the Environment, Cllr Nilgun Canver, said:
"Community engagement is key to the success of this project. It will give the initiative back to residents and allow them to create a space suitable for people to meet, socialise, and play. I hope everyone will get involved and take this opportunity to help design their own neighbourhood."
The project is funded by the council and TfL and will focus on the Gardens neighbourhood, including: Chesterfield, Cleveland, Devon, Doncaster, Essex, Grafton, Kimberley, Portland, Rutland, Stanhope, Sussex and Warwick Gardens.
These roads were chosen because they are near to Green Lanes and will complement the upcoming town centre improvements.
The project will be completed by July 2014.
A community engagement event for Community Streets will take place on the 29 September in Grafton/Doncaster Gardens and will be linked with the Garden Residents' Association 10 year anniversary celebrations for their Community Garden.
Project newsletter attached.
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Permalink Reply by ant on
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Thats interesting. I've not yet replied to your comments here but i've not forgotten about it, doing more research. Seem a lot of emotion about, which may be one reason putting of people from stepping up here. Thats one reason why leaving the formal positions vacant to start with might work.
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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Liz, I think what they asked was:
1. Do you want one-way?
2. Which direction do you want one way on your street?
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Permalink Reply by Alison P on
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Yes, that's my memory too. I think we then had speed humps only for a brief while until the 2 way scheme came in, or maybe it was the other way around.
I do remember a blissful immediate stop to the many crazy drivers who would speed down the road at ridiculous speeds. But agree that the humps bring their own problems, many of them.
I think the problem with this whole thing is that it becomes very easy to see it as them vs us, why should Gardens get this etc etc. Personally I think the ladder has more problems with traffic than the gardens, but I can imagine that if one ladder road was chosen over another we'd probably be having a similar discussion. The thing I'd like to know more about is the decision making behind the choice, and the criteria used. And more generally how these schemes will benefit a bigger number, by testing out schemes that could be used by lots of streets rather than just the chosen few.
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Yes, but the document didn't really help me answer the questions I've got, either as to how the choices were made or how generalisable the results will be to those not fortunate to live in the scheme areas.
I noticed the gardens description mentions a cycle route. Anyone know more? Is this aimed at diverting cyclists from GL?
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The neighbourhood selection criteria are on the first few pages. It's not clearly explained but it provides a good basis for further questioning.
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Permalink Reply by Joe Bailey on
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@JJ B
Oh look at that link you provided - there's a gated set of roads, with road humps, presumably to calm speed!
Yes, there may be a flower bed or two, too. But if the priority is calming speed (and not gentrification of the area) I don't see where your argument is, nor why the Ladder roads shouldn't have gates or barriers like the Gardens roads do, before we all worry about making things more pretty in just one area.
Again, why should Ladder residents, or anyone else in the borough get lower standards of service delivery; can you please provide an answer to that question?
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Permalink Reply by Gordon Curtis on
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It needn't be a race to the bottom.
The point has already been made, but if a scheme is successful and receives public approval, it is more likely to be rolled out across the borough in future.
I think It would be far worse if the public-purse were used to keep repeating the mistakes of the past.
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I agree that the whole Borough should be treated in the same way. I live in Bruce Grove Ward...come see!!!! Our sidewalks are cr...p, the street signs are rusty, and it doesn't seem to be getting better. Council cutus are the recurrent excuse. We haad a walk about with H officials and they said that some of he pot holes didn't merit attention!!!
I also want to know what will happen with the rs of the BOrogh once GArdesn et stheir improvements. And there are already other areas that have received attention.
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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Are people too chicken to spell it out here? Nilgun Canver's ward is St Ann's which includes the Gardens. Spelling out what is going on any more clearly will unfortunately incur the wrath of the Tottenham Hale Labour party attack dog with threats of libel etc.
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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An attack dog in my ward. Gosh, that sounds interesting, John. I'm sure you're not too chicken to spell out what you mean.
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