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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Just had a knock on the the door from a man claiming to be collecting for the British Red Cross.

Now I know they use chuggers, both street and phone, but is this a new tactic? I'll ring em tomorrow and find out. But it just don't seem right. they are on Pemberton at the mo.

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We've had the Red Cross guys on the N4/N15 border - perfectly nice kids, and most probably legit. But I was pretty clear with them about not wanting to sign up on the doorstep and noticed every one of my neighbours who was in doing the same! I'm not sure what they're getting out of it, tbh. Most people find it pretty intrusive and even if they do get a handful of signups I think stats have shown that the majority withdraw after not very long anyway.

Shame, as it's a really good cause. Made me consider looking into it online, which I guess is a result for them of sorts, but it really annoyed me being 'doorstepped' like that

I saw Liz's comment about signing up on the door step in response to approaches like this, I read somewhere that only about 15-20% of what is paid in the first year of any donation raised via a chugger will go to the charity, the rest going to pay for the chugger- they don't do it for free.

I tried to find something to reference this made up statisic, and could not find the article, but I did find these below from a recent article.

"Shelter, which helps the homeless and badly housed and which has a street fundraising presence in Greater Manchester, says that “47 per cent of our active regular givers who were recruited through face to face fundraising.” That, it says, is a little over 50,000 supporters.

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The British Heart foundation told Newsnight that it paid the equivalent of £136 for every signature secured by door-to-door fundraisers, with Cancer Research UK saying it paid £112 to recruit each donor."

If you feel the need to respond to a chugger then my suggestion is go to the charity direct. My wife was accosted by one a few years ago and signed up. I immidiately called the charity to cancel the donation, and immidiately reset up a DD with them directly- the chugger had not told my wife that they were a paid agent, and that her donation would go (partly) to them... I was furious! This way I made sure the chariry, one we wanted to support anyway, got the benefit.

I hate Chuggers! I hate them because the are essentially mecenaries. They do not raise money because they beleive in the cause, I hate that they knock on my door when I am putting my kids to bed or in the middle of my dinner, I hate that they pretend to be my friend to get something from me. Sadly thought they seem to be a bloodline for charities....

When I was young, which is soooo many years ago, I did door to door fund raising and received a (very poor) commission. I did it because I was unemployed, I couldn't get any other work, it kept me going until I did find work, and it kept me from going on the dole. Most chuggers are young and are just answering adverts for casual work to earn a bit of money they are not evil, they are not plotting to rob and pillage, they are just trying to get by. I don't like them calling at my door either but I blame this system of collecting donations and the charities, but then they are just trying to raise money too. There are enough things in this world worthy of 'hate' e.g. I hate the super rich who are making money at the expense of the ordinary people, I hate that this world is so unequal that there has to be charities at all. Chuggers are small fry, if you don't like them calling then complain to the charities, maybe if enough people complained then they would change tactics. Also simply putting a 'No Cold Callers' sign on the door seems to work and will save getting furious. Enjoy the day

I had a nice chat to one young man yesterday from the Red Cross. I already donate on a monthly basis and we were talking a bit about their new focus on social care and elderly that is coming up. So, yes, these are legit people trying to get more to sign up. It is annoying to be disturbed at home- I only spoke to him cus was outside polishing my boots. It's a job for them though- better they are in work of some kind than being on benefits or ransacking mobile phone shops? Red X and other charities rely so much on volunteers but sometimes they have to pay some people to do some of the work. 

 

The simple fact is that charities employ chuggers because it works, and it brings in money.  If there was a better more cost effective way of fundraising, then they would be doing that instead. The majority of people don't donate time or money without prompting.  If every person who's ever had a whinge about chuggers set up a direct debit or payroll giving to a charity, or gave up some of their time to volunteer as a fundraiser, then there would be no need for chuggers to exsist. 

 

Exactly. They are needed and as I said above, it creates jobs as well. 

We've had the Red Cross chugging in Tottenham at least twice recently (last time on Friday), plus countless others. I'm getting less polite with them as time goes on.

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