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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

I'm aware that the number of staff for our parks has been (or is about to be cut). Judging by the state of Finsbury Park over the last couple of warm weekends the staff have already gone.  The litter problem seems to be worse nearer the Seven Sisters/ Blackstock Rd gate, perhaps because of the traffic to and from the funfair.

 So here are a couple of radical ideas for the council to cope after the staff have gone:

1/ Tax. I had a discussion with a couple of HoL members on Twitter this week about taxing fast food outlets for the cost of clearing up. If it's a problem with funding for litter clearing them surely the cause of the problem should contribute to the clear up.

2 Parking Charges. It costs 50p to park for 2 hours in Finsbury Park. This seems too cheap - how about increasing this to £2 an hour with the money invested in clearing the park.

3. Encourage the people organising the funfair to run a litter sweep.  It's part of the licensing agreement for music events in the park that the event clear litter so why not the funfair ?

4. Close the park. Seriously, it's a lovely park ruined by people. Close it and you remove the need for staff and reduce the litter. Problem Sorted. 

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Here's an interesting take on how to raise revenue for (from?) parks in Hammersmith & Fulham, taken from our friends at W14London.com. (You can read the whole blog, but you have to sign up.):

London Borough of Hammersmith & Fulham has introduced a charge of £350 a year to fitness trainers who wish to use its parks.
The fee was introduced by Hammersmith and Fulham council in April, costing personal trainers £29 per month to use its 48 parks and open spaces.

The Council said this "would be recouped immediately, as most trainers charge about £50 per hour". But Chrissie Gallagher-Mundy, director of London Academy of Personal Fitness, said: "It don't think it's fair."

"Shouldn't parks be free to the public? It will put the cost of training up for the people who use trainers. "It's a step away from charging people to use roads to run on."

The council said parks police would regularly be on patrol to check fitness instructors had the required license.

Conservative councillor Greg Smith, cabinet member for residents' services, defended the fee, saying: "Taxpayers do not expect businesses who are trying to make money out of our parks to get a free ride on the back of their taxes and these businesses do need to pay for the necessary licence.
I've seen the only one man cleaning the park last few days. Is there no more cleaners?
It's getting close to being a public health issue at the South-East corner now - it really stank as I passed through at 10 am and crows are now picking apart all the bags.

I expect I'm teaching grandma to suck eggs here, but you can contact parks direct here on the council website with your complaints and concerns.

Invite them to read this thread perhaps and look at the photos?

Good idea Liz.  I did send some feedback after a park visit on the 16th April but I've logged this problem and linked back to this thread.
That makes two of us so far then :)
I will too, and will also raise my additional concerns re state of playground near American Gardens and further damage noted today on climbing frames in other main play ground - so sad that so much is deteriorating. Grey covered seating area has also been half burned down. On a positive note, most rubbish now cleared & the boat man now has responsibility for the toilets and there has been a dramatic improvment there.
Ditto (will post). Glad to hear most of the rubbish has now gone.

Can I suggest that as well as using the website, people may want to forward a copy of their complaints (and the replies) to ward councillors representing adjacent wards.

For Finsbury Park the ward councillors are: Seven Sisters: Dhiren Basu; Joe Goldberg; Claire Kober. St Ann's: Zena Brabazon; David Browne; Nilgun Canver. Harringay: Gina Adamou; Karen Alexander: David Schmitz. Stroud Green: Ed Butcher; Katherine Reece; Richard Wilson. For each councillor the format for emails is: firstname.surname@haringey.gov.uk

Photos may be helpful too.

And so would compliments for cleaning and maintenance done well by the Parks staff. Very often, people who do the dirty work are not only lower paid and given lower status. They are overlooked, barely visible, and sometimes taken for granted. Until of course things go wrong.

Untilless of course things go wrong

The Haringey Friends of Parks Forum petition against the massive cuts to parks maintenance is now on their website, so people could also take a copy to the park next time they visit and collect some signatures to send in.  Their press release gives more detail.

The text of the petition is

NO TO CUTS IN HARINGEY PARKS!

No cuts to staffing, maintenance budgets or site depots.

Support our Parks workers!

We the undersigned are extremely concerned about, and object to

  • the slashing of local park budgets by over 50% (£1m)
  • the threat of drastic cuts to the number of staff working in our parks.  Staff are currently being consulted over compulsory redundancies - we send them our support
  • plans to close a number of parks' depots or lease them out to street cleaning teams

We believe this will make our green spaces unsafe, and return them back to the shocking neglect of the 1980/90s.  We call on the Council to halt the plans.


Thanks Alex

You can also grab a copy on HOL posted as .doc 

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