New crime map on http://www.police.uk/

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Permalink Reply by Alison P on February 1, 2011 at 8:55

Was interested in why some of the blobs were larger than others, so went to the www.police.uk site to check, but it crashed my computer!

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Permalink Reply by SarahC on February 1, 2011 at 9:14

The radio news on BBC London has been leading all morning on something like  "The area around Green Lanes in Haringey is the worst for anti-social behaviour, according to a new police map..."

When I put in my postcode it said "Sorry, we couldn't find a policing area that matched your search".

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Permalink Reply by james walsh on February 1, 2011 at 12:09

Message when entering my (or any other) postcode ''Sorry, we couldn't find a policing area that matched your search.''

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Permalink Reply by Mark B on February 1, 2011 at 9:22

Well the big blobs are I think general area - When you zoom in then it breaks it down a bit more.But still not too much so you cannot apparently identify witnesses.

I think the big "13" on wightman road is just wightman. Also look at the "huge" 13 "hotspot" in the middle of the crouch end residential area. I have always been a bit scared walking through there with my waitrose carrier bags...... (that was an attempt at a joke).

 

 

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Permalink Reply by John D on February 1, 2011 at 9:34

Agree with Alison. My computer froze and had to go to task manager to get out. Maybe just high demand on the police uk site

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Permalink Reply by SarahC on February 1, 2011 at 9:43

They've gone into more detail on the radio and apparently "Rowley Road" is the second worst area in the country for anti-social behaviour. (Rowley Road looks really small, so I assumed they meant Rowley Gardens, then looked at the map above where it seems to have the number 79!). Then a policeman (?) came on and said it was probably just people reporting lost phones.

I do remember looking at the old crime maps that were on here and being vaguely cheered that there was a lower level of crime in West Green than Crouch End.

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Permalink Reply by Mark B on February 1, 2011 at 9:48

Look I promise I really really *really* dont read the Mail but...

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1352354/Crime-map-Britain-R...

 

so they say Rowley Road.

 

But it could be associated with the Park or a bus or whatever.

 

Here is an enlargment from the screen grab I took this AM

It is such an outlier.

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Permalink Reply by SarahC on February 1, 2011 at 9:58

Rowley Road looks perfectly pleasant on streetview. But what happens if you have one dodgy thing in a street, though? Like a house with drug dealing that all the neighbours repeatedly report for months - would these all count as separate incidents?

I still can't get into the map; they're saying on the radio that the whole thing's gone down through overuse. (And I promise that I really, really, really don't usually listen to Vanessa Feltz...)

I notice the Mail can't spell Harringay/Haringey.

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Permalink Reply by Mark B on February 1, 2011 at 10:01

That's exactly my point. Something odd happend on Rowley and somthing odd happened on Ascot, all the rest is not a "surprise". More crime around stations etc.

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Permalink Reply by John D on February 1, 2011 at 10:02

The statistics would depend on people actually reporting crime. It might well be that the residents of the worst areas just don't bother because they know that there isn't a lot of point. And those in other areas may be more easily spurred into action.

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Permalink Reply by Hugh on February 1, 2011 at 10:34

For comparison, the old crime mapping tool can still be accessed via our policing page.

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Permalink Reply by Mark B on February 1, 2011 at 11:04

Comparing the two, the answer appears to be for some parts e.g. south of the ladder they apparently agree and both give 7 crimes. (5 in that crime hotspot cavendish road).

http://maps.met.police.uk/access.php?area=E01002001&ct=8&so...

 

For St Annes and the region of Rowley Road to put it politely the figures disagree somewhat.

6 crimes on the old database

http://maps.met.police.uk/access.php?area=E01002042&ct=8&so...

As opposed to what seems to be 96 in the same geographical area.

 

I love data, and I love open data. But I hate lazy journalism, and it looks like something is seriously wrong with the figures.

 

Imagine the time that will be wasted sorting it out. (unless santa went on a rampage or something).

M

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